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CBP officers are not googling authors' names at primary inspection, determining whether they are liberal or conservative thinkers, and then retaliating against them if liberal by referring them to secondary inspection.
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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
(Post 27972839)
Rather, I think this is CBP trying to crack down on people working on tourist visas but not knowing the rules.
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
(Post 27973638)
CBP officers are not googling authors' names at primary inspection, determining whether they are liberal or conservative thinkers, and then retaliating against them if liberal by referring them to secondary inspection.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 27973751)
It's been done before, denials here not withstanding what has in fact taken place before.
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
(Post 27973774)
Please provide a cite/link to where this has happened before. I would be interested in reading about it.
And by the way, a lot more of this took place under the prior Admin than the current one (so far). ;) |
OK. Are you a former CBP officer or law enforcement agent who worked with CBP officers in some way and personally witnessed them googling author's names at primary inspection and retaliating against liberal thinkers by referring them to secondary?
I mean, I could write, "CBP officers at Honolulu airport sometimes torture kittens on their lunch breaks but it just hasn't been reported," and then add "you are welcome to try to deny or confirm this." But if I never worked at Honolulu airport and provided no basis for why I would have such information, you'd probably assume I was a kook who was just spreading false information. |
Originally Posted by jphripjah
(Post 27974026)
OK. Are you a former CBP officer or law enforcement agent who worked with CBP officers in some way and personally witnessed them googling author's names at primary inspection and retaliating against liberal thinkers by referring them to secondary?
I mean, I could write, "CBP officers at Honolulu airport sometimes torture kittens on their lunch breaks but it just hasn't been reported," and then add "you are welcome to try to deny or confirm this." But if I never worked at Honolulu airport and provided no basis for why I would have such information, you'd probably assume I was a kook who was just spreading false information. I think you know enough about what kind of material I provide on FT in this area to know that I'm far from clueless about our policies and practices at US ports of entry and need not rely upon just experiences of myself and my travel party members as passengers at US ports of entry. I've worked with CBP, but not in a role as a CBP employee or law enforcement officer. And that's all you are going to get from me on that. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 27973969)
And by the way, a lot more of this took place under the prior Admin than the current one (so far). ;)
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 27984037)
As you'd expect - 8 years versus not even a couple of months.
Perhaps the proportion of passengers sent to secondary or even the average time in secondary (for people sent to secondary) has increased this year, but I haven't yet seen numbers make the round about this for US ports of entry. |
Originally Posted by jphripjah
(Post 27973638)
CBP officers are not googling authors' names at primary inspection, determining whether they are liberal or conservative thinkers, and then retaliating against them if liberal by referring them to secondary inspection.
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
(Post 27959051)
It sounds to me like they detained her for the purpose of investigating/questioning her about whether she was traveling on the correct visa. At the conclusion of the investigation they allowed her to enter. Much of the two hours she spend in secondary was probably sitting quietly waiting for her name to be called.
I don't think it's stupid or wrongful for CBP officers to detain foreigners at the border for the purpose of determining whether they should be allowed to enter. Fox, 70 years of age, was made to stand for much of the time she was detained. She was entering you country on the correct visa and received an apology from your government after this stuff up. She won't be going back to the US in future and other notables will be giving pause before bothering to go there. You need to be careful about who you let wear uniforms in your county. From FAs to doormen you seem to grant them too much power. |
Originally Posted by BadgerBoi
(Post 28024993)
Fox, 70 years of age, was made to stand for much of the time she was detained. She was entering you country on the correct visa and received an apology from your government after this stuff up.
She won't be going back to the US in future and other notables will be giving pause before bothering to go there. You need to be careful about who you let wear uniforms in your county. From FAs to doormen you seem to grant them too much power. http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/im...7/cbp-memo.pdf To grow the number of DHS employees the new President wants, they want to make it easier to get less qualified Americans to work for CBP than is currently allowed. That "flexibility" in hiring/retention standards means more -- not fewer -- CBP bad apples and foolish/ignorant shenanigans from CBP at US ports of entry. This Australian author experienced this under the current ("high") standards of CBP employment practices; it will be even more of a gamble at US ports of entry when the CBP hiring standards are "relaxed". |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 28025070)
The current US Administration wants to be less careful about who wears CBP uniforms:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/im...7/cbp-memo.pdf To grow the number of DHS employees the new President wants, they want to make it easier to get less qualified Americans to work for CBP than is currently allowed. That "flexibility" in hiring/retention standards means more -- not fewer -- CBP bad apples and foolish/ignorant shenanigans from CBP at US ports of entry. This Australian author experienced this under the current ("high") standards of CBP employment practices; it will be even more of a gamble at US ports of entry when the CBP hiring standards are "relaxed". |
Originally Posted by BadgerBoi
(Post 28024993)
Fox, 70 years of age, was made to stand for much of the time she was detained.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...entire-country I don't disagree that CBP officers can be rude and intimidating. However, I see nothing wrongful about them briefly detaining foreigners visiting for career-related reasons to determine if they have the correct visa or authorization for their visit. |
Originally Posted by BadgerBoi
(Post 28025088)
If somehow I found myself in the US I'd be very cautious of even dealing with someone working in a burger joint. A uniform is a uniform, and it doesn't really seem to matter who issued it.
CBP has police powers, whether they wear a uniform or not, and the question is whether they're abusing those powers. I'm concerned about some recent reports and the impact it's going to have on the tourism industry in the U.S. I just can't see how that has anything to do with hamburgers. |
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