Netherlands terminates U.S. preclearance talks
Feb 3, 2017, 2:59 pm
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Netherlands terminates U.S. preclearance talks
Buried here.
Big competitive loss for DL, I imagine.
The Netherlands has also been in talks with the U.S. since December about extending pre-clearance to its Schiphol international airport, but on Tuesday it abruptly ended them.
Feb 3, 2017, 3:18 pm
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In the aftermath of the EO ban against citizens of 7 Muslim-majority countries, lots of places will re-consider their relationship with the US and US CBP. CBP Preclearance expansion may end up a casualty in parts.
I am waiting to see if US CBP's IAP in parts ends up being on the sacrificial altar too in places.
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Feb 4, 2017, 10:34 am
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Feb 4, 2017, 10:48 pm
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Feb 7, 2017, 9:45 pm
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I'm one more vote in Preclearance not being a benefit. In addition to being a crappy departure experience, for all the reasons MSPEconomist mentioned, I have a more fundamental problem with the US essentially extending its borders into other countries that are foolish enough to allow it.
Feb 7, 2017, 10:36 pm
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Not at all. If there's a choice, I would always avoid routings that have preclearance. It's horrible to be forced to arrive at the airport early, leave the lounge early, stand in long lines for immigration and customs (versus generally going through shorter lines if one is sitting toward the front of the aircraft), and then being trapped in a holding pen with virtually no services beyond hopefully some minimal public restrooms and perhaps a water fountain if one is lucky.
Feb 8, 2017, 7:29 am
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Not at all. If there's a choice, I would always avoid routings that have preclearance. It's horrible to be forced to arrive at the airport early, leave the lounge early, stand in long lines for immigration and customs (versus generally going through shorter lines if one is sitting toward the front of the aircraft), and then being trapped in a holding pen with virtually no services beyond hopefully some minimal public restrooms and perhaps a water fountain if one is lucky.
Feb 8, 2017, 8:18 pm
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I much prefer to dealing with CBP after my flight and five miles from my house instead of having to get to my departing airport an hour or two earlier than I otherwise would. Just in case there's a huge line for Immigration or I get secondaried and have to sweat missing my flight. Toronto is a major culprit on both scenarios. I've made it through pre-clearance at Pearson in under 2 minutes, it's also taken me 2 hours. You never know.
Feb 10, 2017, 2:21 am
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It makes more sense in Canada as it allows flights to places from Canada that don't even have CBP facilities (For example YYC to Palm Springs).
Feb 10, 2017, 2:33 am
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Well then, why not do preclearance only for such flights and treat flights to USA international airports as genuine international flights?
Feb 10, 2017, 5:35 am
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I say this as an opponent of CBP Preclearance expansion.