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Old Jan 28, 2017, 7:31 pm
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Originally Posted by chenalex
That injunction might only be enforceable in New York, and the circuit in which the court resides.
The judge was clear that it was nationwide. I suspect a Federal judge is unlikely to claim authority they don't have.
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Old Jan 28, 2017, 8:00 pm
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The judge was clear that it was nationwide. I suspect a Federal judge is unlikely to claim authority they don't have.
A federal judge can't over rule the President.
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Old Jan 28, 2017, 8:04 pm
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A federal judge can't over rule the President.
If they say something is unconstitutional they can.
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Old Jan 28, 2017, 8:15 pm
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Let's see how fast this goes up to the SCOTUS.
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Old Jan 28, 2017, 8:17 pm
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Originally Posted by CosmosHuman
A federal judge can't over rule the President.
Ever heard of checks and balances?
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Old Jan 28, 2017, 8:43 pm
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Old Jan 28, 2017, 8:54 pm
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Originally Posted by samplat
According to WSJ, the ban also applies to dual citizens! I don't have access to the full article but if true, this could even impact naturalized US citizens e.g. those considered citizen of one of the countries by birth, etc.

Here's the link: http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-vi...ays-1485628654
I can apparently see the entire article without doing anything to sign in. WSJ may have decided to remove the pay wall, so folks might want to try again.
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Old Jan 28, 2017, 9:12 pm
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In The Washington Post:
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Minutes after the judge’s ruling in New York, another came in Virginia when U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema issued a temporary restraining order to block for seven days the removal of any green-card holders being detained at Dulles International Airport. Brinkema’s action also ordered that lawyers have access to those held there because of the ban.

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In New York, Donnelly seemed to have little patience for the government’s arguments, which focused heavily on the fact that the two defendants named in the lawsuit had already been released. Donnelly noted that those detained were suffering mostly from the bad fortune of traveling while the ban went into effect. “Our own government presumably approved their entry to the country,” she said at one point, noting that, had it been two days prior, those detained would have been granted admission without question.

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Nationwide, [a senior Department of Homeland Security official] said, 109 people had been denied entry into the United States. All had been in transit when Trump signed the order, and some had already departed the United States on flights by late Saturday while others were still being detained awaiting flights. Also, 173 people had not been allowed to board U.S.-bound planes at foreign airports.

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Old Jan 29, 2017, 1:20 am
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Originally Posted by samplat
According to WSJ, the ban also applies to dual citizens! I don't have access to the full article but if true, this could even impact naturalized US citizens e.g. those considered citizen of one of the countries by birth, etc.

Here's the link: http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-vi...ays-1485628654
Non-US dual-citizens, and other non-US citizens, with a citizenship of the blacklisted countries got hit by this order. Having a US ordinary passport as an Iranian citizen worked just fine yesterday and today AFAIK.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 1:51 am
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An official with the Department of Homeland Security who briefed reporters by phone said 109 people who were in transit on airplanes had been denied entry and 173 had not been allowed to get on their planes overseas.

No green-card holders had been ultimately been prevented from entering the U.S. as of Saturday, the official said, though several spent long hours in detention before being allowed in. Abdollah Mostafavi, 80, was released six hours after his flight arrived in San Francisco from Frankfurt.
https://news.google.com/news/amp?cau...tml#pt0-839996

I have some doubt about the accuracy of those numbers.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 4:20 am
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Originally Posted by CosmosHuman
A federal judge can't over rule the President.
lol what? C'mon now. That happens all the time.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 7:09 am
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...ource=facebook

"The recent change to the U.S. entry requirements for nationals of 7 countries applies to all travellers and flight operations crew," the spokeswoman said in emailed comments. "We have made the necessary adjustments to our crewing, to comply with the latest requirements."
Looks like crews are also affected
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
https://news.google.com/news/amp?cau...tml#pt0-839996

I have some doubt about the accuracy of those numbers.
How many hundreds were refused boarding at a foreign airport? That number probably dwarfs those who were in the air when the word went out.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 8:09 am
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I'm so exhausted at this point that I probably won't be posting here as much today, though I will be at the rally at 1pm today in Boston at Copley Square.

My sister-in-law got a slightly different cancellation email from State a few minutes after the Massachusetts injunction.

There is a more complete FAQ on State's website today, basically saying that Iranians et al can continue to work on cases heading to the National Visa Center, but the NVC is now some sort of visa purgatory where those cases will wait for an all-clear before being released to Ankara or Abu Dhabi (in Iranian cases).

My read of reporting on the MA injunction is that there should now be a window in which ordinary visa holders (not just LPRs) can land at Logan, though it does nothing for those of us worried about cases in the pipeline. I have no idea if that is CBP's read of things or how they are handling things on the ground. I must say that the treatment and questioning of arriving LPRs on Saturday in contrast to, say, Friday, was just bizarre - who knows what they are being directed to investigate and how they are interpreting it on the ground.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 10:59 am
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