TSA is starting that RealID stuff again...
#331
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2019/11/08/still-dont-have-a-real-id-you-may-soon-be-able-to-apply-online/
DHS in their RFP:
“We are also interested in concepts that identify the extent to which the additional capabilities or technologies will increase the adoption rate of individuals obtaining REAL ID-compliant identification.”
This RFP seems to indicate that alarm bells have gone off about low adoption rate. Pre-check all over again it seems...
DHS in their RFP:
“We are also interested in concepts that identify the extent to which the additional capabilities or technologies will increase the adoption rate of individuals obtaining REAL ID-compliant identification.”
This RFP seems to indicate that alarm bells have gone off about low adoption rate. Pre-check all over again it seems...
#332
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2019/11/08/still-dont-have-a-real-id-you-may-soon-be-able-to-apply-online/
DHS in their RFP:
“We are also interested in concepts that identify the extent to which the additional capabilities or technologies will increase the adoption rate of individuals obtaining REAL ID-compliant identification.”
This RFP seems to indicate that alarm bells have gone off about low adoption rate. Pre-check all over again it seems...
DHS in their RFP:
“We are also interested in concepts that identify the extent to which the additional capabilities or technologies will increase the adoption rate of individuals obtaining REAL ID-compliant identification.”
This RFP seems to indicate that alarm bells have gone off about low adoption rate. Pre-check all over again it seems...
#333
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#334
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Really? Going by history DHS/TSA is guaranteed to blink once again. I don't think there's a choice not to blink, at this time, unless the goal is to undermine TSA's reputation even more.
#335
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I was pointing out that based upon history, betting against it would be a bad idea, while setting up a timeline betting pool would be a pretty good moneymaker.
#336
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Couldn't agree more. I'm in I'll. Been married for decades, first and only marriage. passport and DL and voter registration all have the same name..first maiden married. They have been renewed many times . Passport last about 5 years ago I never changed my SSN name and for about 30 years it didn't matter since there is no attempt to defraud and no one can really define what is a legal name. I have no problem with credit and my name. Then the government match process started and now pay info tax returns medical info are in maiden name. So all my w2 and pay stubs are first middle maiden. Has not caused any problems.i have an official copy of my marriage certificate but it doesn't prove anything either since there is nothing to indicate if you change your name. I do have a global entry card which I might use.
#337
Join Date: Aug 2012
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I've told this story before of what I witnessed at a DMV office in my state when the "bring every single document you possess to prove who you are" nonsense started. I was standing in line behind an older gentleman who spoke with an accent. He had all the necessary documents BUT his birth certificate did not match his Social Security card. The BC was apparently "John Doe" but the SS card was "John Joseph Doe." Why the difference? His SS card had his confirmation name on it. DMV told him he had to get a copy of his confirmation documents to prove that he added "Joseph" to his name. He couldn't do that because he had been confirmed in Italy and he had no documentation to prove the confirmation. The DMV clerk said he HAD to have the information before he could renew his license. He said to her that he didn't even know where the church was that he was confirmed in and her response to him was something to the effect of "no certificate, no license." He turned and left the office with tears in his eyes. I often wonder if he solved his problem and was able to get a license.
#338
Join Date: Aug 2012
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When I went to get my Real ID compliant NY Driver's license they refused to accept my NYC city government issued identification card with my address printed on it as proof of address. Instead they took a home-printed copy of my internet bill which could have been easily altered or even outright forged by anyone with a child's basic level of computer skills. I feel so safe.
#339
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In The Washington Post:
DHS weighs online applications for Real ID as 2020 deadline looms
With an October 2020 deadline looming, the Department of Homeland Security is requesting proposals for ideas that could allow states to accept online applications for the federally mandated Real ID, a change that would potentially end the requirement for an in-person visit, which critics say is outdated and unnecessary.
Allowing online applications would help expedite services at state departments of motor vehicles that are experiencing long lines and wait times as they scramble to issue millions of new driver’s licenses and ID cards that conform with the sweeping federal law that tightens security requirements for state-issued identification.
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A DHS spokesman said the agency “intends to proceed as quickly as possible to implement any viable proposals for streamlining the REAL ID issuance process.”
“The Department is interested in ideas and technologies that could allow applicants to submit their required documents electronically to the DMV in addition to, or possibly in lieu of, applying in person,” the spokesman said.
The U.S. Travel Association and other industry groups have been urging DHS to modernize the application process to make it easier for states and residents. Without upgrades, the groups say, tens of thousands of people could be unprepared to board a flight come October, and even more next Thanksgiving. More inexperienced travelers tend to fly during the holidays.
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Allowing online applications would help expedite services at state departments of motor vehicles that are experiencing long lines and wait times as they scramble to issue millions of new driver’s licenses and ID cards that conform with the sweeping federal law that tightens security requirements for state-issued identification.
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A DHS spokesman said the agency “intends to proceed as quickly as possible to implement any viable proposals for streamlining the REAL ID issuance process.”
“The Department is interested in ideas and technologies that could allow applicants to submit their required documents electronically to the DMV in addition to, or possibly in lieu of, applying in person,” the spokesman said.
The U.S. Travel Association and other industry groups have been urging DHS to modernize the application process to make it easier for states and residents. Without upgrades, the groups say, tens of thousands of people could be unprepared to board a flight come October, and even more next Thanksgiving. More inexperienced travelers tend to fly during the holidays.
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#340
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#341
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#342
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Here are some comments from regular Joes/Janes on the REAL ID process:
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2019-0056-0017
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2019-0056-0022
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2019-0056-0015
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2019-0056-0008
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2019-0056-0004
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2019-0056-0018
Some of the comments reflect the discussions that has been on-going on this website for years.
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2019-0056-0017
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2019-0056-0022
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2019-0056-0015
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2019-0056-0008
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2019-0056-0004
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2019-0056-0018
Some of the comments reflect the discussions that has been on-going on this website for years.
#343
Join Date: May 2009
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Agreed. Plus you have the (I think larger) issue of lack of awareness among the general public, most of whom don't fly that often and aren't thinking of these types of things. Though it would of course be nice to be able to renew online.
#344
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Still open to a DHS Blink Date pool. The grand prize is the right to gloat for one whole day.
I choose July 4, 2020.
#345
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Even if a Real ID online process is created each and every state will have to come up with local procedures, software programming with systems to match and so forth. I'd say this is a 5 to 10 year project once standards are adopted.
Still open to a DHS Blink Date pool. The grand prize is the right to gloat for one whole day.
I choose July 4, 2020.
Still open to a DHS Blink Date pool. The grand prize is the right to gloat for one whole day.
I choose July 4, 2020.