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Old Oct 2, 2019, 5:27 pm
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who care just travel with your passport
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Old Oct 2, 2019, 6:27 pm
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who care just travel with your passport
Not everybody has a passport.
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Old Oct 2, 2019, 11:41 pm
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Originally Posted by petaluma1
Not everybody has a passport.
That is true, not everyone has the proper ID, we need everyone with the proper ID
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Old Oct 3, 2019, 3:15 am
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Originally Posted by satman40
That is true, not everyone has the proper ID, we need everyone with the proper ID
Everyone would be better off if the TSA stopped with its passenger ID checks and its REAL ID junk. Everyone would be better off if the TSA instead focused on looking for prohibited weapons, explosives and incendiaries rather than looking at passenger ID, whether its "proper ID" or not.
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Old Oct 3, 2019, 5:32 am
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That is true, not everyone has the proper ID, we need everyone with the proper ID
Why? ID does NOT contribute to safety in air travel.
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Old Oct 3, 2019, 5:45 am
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Originally Posted by satman40
That is true, not everyone has the proper ID, we need everyone with the proper ID


Why? What does ID accomplish that a proper screening does not. Freedom of movement (travel) is a protected right. Being required to present government sanctioned ID in order to travel flies in the face of the right to travel. Those states who have pushed back against Real ID understand this problem.
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Old Oct 3, 2019, 8:58 am
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Everyone would be better off if the TSA stopped with its passenger ID checks and its REAL ID junk. Everyone would be better off if the TSA instead focused on looking for prohibited weapons, explosives and incendiaries rather than looking at passenger ID, whether its "proper ID" or not.
Get rid of IDs, and all records, no locks needed on doors
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Old Oct 3, 2019, 10:27 am
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Get rid of IDs, and all records, no locks needed on doors
That's not an answer. Again, please how does showing ID to TSA increase the safety of air travel?
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Old Oct 4, 2019, 4:03 am
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Originally Posted by satman40
Get rid of IDs, and all records, no locks needed on doors
Absolutely no one has said anything even remotely like this.

ID requirements are not and never have been a security measure. They do nothing to add to security, but they do require money, time, resources, and attention from genuine security measures like screening and situational awareness.

We still need locks on doors, background vetting for airport workers, and WEI screening for air travelers. But those things provide genuine security benefits, while ID requirements for travelers do absolutely nothing to increase security.

If you disagree, please state your reasoning. Tell us why you think ID requirements are needed and what security benefit they provide.
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Old Oct 4, 2019, 4:45 am
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Absolutely no one has said anything even remotely like this.
Minor correction, as someone has said exactly that:

Originally Posted by satman40
Get rid of IDs, and all records, no locks needed on doors
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Old Oct 4, 2019, 1:52 pm
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Absolutely no one has said anything even remotely like this.

ID requirements are not and never have been a security measure

IDs are a security measurement ,

You need to qualify to have the ID,,it also protects against intruders,

Where I live you need a code to get in the gate, a code to get in the door, same as the work area,
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Old Oct 4, 2019, 2:01 pm
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Absolutely no one has said anything even remotely like this.

ID requirements are not and never have been a security measure

IDs are a security measurement ,

You need to qualify to have the ID,,it also protects against intruders,

Where I live you need a code to get in the gate, a code to get in the door, same as the work area,
I am pretty sure the shooter in the Las Vegas attack had ID.
How did that help keep people at the concert safer?
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Old Oct 4, 2019, 2:07 pm
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Absolutely no one has said anything even remotely like this.

ID requirements are not and never have been a security measure

IDs are a security measurement ,

You need to qualify to have the ID,,it also protects against intruders,

Where I live you need a code to get in the gate, a code to get in the door, same as the work area,
Do you need a code plus ID?

How does ID, for the purpose of TSA, make anyone safer if everyone is properly screened?
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Old Oct 4, 2019, 2:23 pm
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How does ID, for the purpose of TSA, make anyone safer if everyone is properly screened.

I would start by properly ID ing the TSA Agent, but then even their IDs could be photo copies, many of them may have submitted, false info when employed

Another paper trip,
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Old Oct 8, 2019, 9:58 am
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who care just travel with your passport
Why should I use my passport domestically???? Its something to worry about losing while traveling
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