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petaluma1 Dec 14, 2016 6:02 pm

Teddy Bear Abandoned at LAX Security Checkpoint
 
Will this be on next week's "good catch" list?


TSA took somebody's large teddy bear.

Boggie Dog Dec 15, 2016 1:09 pm


Originally Posted by petaluma1 (Post 27613154)
Suppose somebody hacked Bob's home computer? It's back to headquarters for him - no more working from home.


The 12/14 article has gone missing.

Replaced with the Teddy Bear article hitting the news, byline 12/15.

TWA884 Dec 15, 2016 3:06 pm

CNN Money:
TSA warns travelers with depressing teddy bear Instagram post


<snip>

"After watching a Youtube video posted by the traveler, we've learned that he's a popular YouTuber and this was a stunt to see if he could get the giant bear on the plane," said the TSA in its update. "He even made up a back story that the bear was a gift for his girlfriend."

The TSA said the bear's owner bought a ticket for the bear, but the unnamed airline and the TSA still decided it was too big to screen.

The airline offered to refund the ticket and gave the traveler the option of checking the bear as checked baggage. "The traveler opted not to check the bear and left it behind," said the TSA.

WillCAD Dec 16, 2016 3:32 pm


Originally Posted by petaluma1 (Post 27613187)
Will this be on next week's "good catch" list?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BOA51WwAuS2/?taken-by=tsa

TSA took somebody's large teddy bear.

I don't understand this at all.

Though the stuffed bear was quite large, it was smaller than a human being, and human beings are screened by the millions each day.

It appears to be too large to fit in the carry-on x-ray scanner. However, there are protocols for screening items which can't be x-rayed, such as photographic film.

The bear could easily - and quickly - have been screened by the same means used to screen human beings and medical assistive devices: WTMD combined with ETD swabbing, followed by vigorous hands-on groping.

But instead, the TSOs chose to take the lazy way out. "It's weird, so it's prohibited."

And Saddington Bear gets left by a trash can in an airport. Maybe Tom Hanks can make a movie about this one...

TWA884 Dec 16, 2016 4:40 pm


Originally Posted by WillCAD (Post 27622973)
Though the stuffed bear was quite large, it was smaller than a human being, and human beings are screened by the millions each day.

According to its owner, YouTuber Jake Paul, the teddy bear is 9' tall.

Here is his video of the "incident":


TWA884 Dec 16, 2016 4:54 pm

And a lot more details in this Daily Breeze article:

CDTraveler Dec 16, 2016 11:39 pm

They sell those bears at CostCo. The thing is actually bigger than it looks in the first picture. My son was fooling around with one in the store last week and from seeing it up close I can tell you it wouldn't fit in most cars in a passenger seat, so I doubt you could cram one into a plane seat.

Rather rotten of the YouTuber to just abandon it.

GUWonder Dec 17, 2016 5:36 am


Originally Posted by CDTraveler (Post 27624301)
They sell those bears at CostCo. The thing is actually bigger than it looks in the first picture. My son was fooling around with one in the store last week and from seeing it up close I can tell you it wouldn't fit in most cars in a passenger seat, so I doubt you could cram one into a plane seat.

Rather rotten of the YouTuber to just abandon it.

Is that store-sold stuffed animal bigger than the late "Andre the Giant"? He fit in airplane passenger seats. He cleared airport security screening checkpoints.

Here he is:

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...anandrecq7.jpg

The giant teddy bear had a ticketed seat, according to some articles. Doesn't the "9 foot teddy" get shipped in boxes whose biggest dimension is smaller than 9 feet? Compressing a stuffed animal isn't all that hard to do, and in some ways it easier to do than to try to compress a newly cut Christmas tree if unfamiliar with the methods to make it simple.

Even when not compressed, this teddy bear would perhaps cause me less discomfort if it spilled over into my seat too than what has happened to me from some "people of size" spilling over into my seat space.

jkhuggins Dec 17, 2016 8:28 am


Originally Posted by petaluma1 (Post 27613187)
Will this be on next week's "good catch" list?

TSA took somebody's large teddy bear.

Response from the TSA Blog:

http://blog.tsa.gov/2016/12/tsa-myth...-officers.html

GUWonder Dec 17, 2016 8:40 am

Teddy bears can be dangerous, in that they can be used to conceal dangerous items -- something too many children in current and/or former conflict zones have realized. But the TSA can screen teddy bears -- even oversized ones -- in a way that ordinary children cannot.

zebranz Dec 17, 2016 8:54 am

Sorry but don't believe you- I has seen many passengers bigger fit in seats! Usually a seat and a half....

He doesn't have any body odor, talk, ask to have you buy them a drink, bother the FA's, get up to go to the bathroom. I think he would a better seat mate than many others.

I hope they find him a good home. It would be a shame to be stuck at the airport for the rest of his life.



Originally Posted by CDTraveler (Post 27624301)
They sell those bears at CostCo. The thing is actually bigger than it looks in the first picture. My son was fooling around with one in the store last week and from seeing it up close I can tell you it wouldn't fit in most cars in a passenger seat, so I doubt you could cram one into a plane seat.

Rather rotten of the YouTuber to just abandon it.


CDTraveler Dec 17, 2016 12:16 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 27624885)
Is that store-sold stuffed animal bigger than the late "Andre the Giant"? He fit in airplane passenger seats. He cleared airport security screening checkpoints.

Here he is:

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...anandrecq7.jpg

1. Andre the Giant died in 1993. You might not have noticed, but unless the bear had a ticket in first class, the space available in which to cram the bear is noticeably less than the space of a 1993 flight.

2. the bear is 9 feet, Andre was only 7.


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 27624885)
The giant teddy bear had a ticketed seat, according to some articles. Doesn't the "9 foot teddy" get shipped in boxes whose biggest dimension is smaller than 9 feet? Compressing a stuffed animal isn't all that hard to do, and in some ways it easier to do than to try to compress a newly cut Christmas tree if unfamiliar with the methods to make it simple.

The bears arrive at CostCo in boxes about the size of a large refrigerator. Several have been crammed in each box and when the straps around the box are cut, they pop open with a fair bit of force. Actually compressing a stuffed animal and keeping it compressed requires equipment that wouldn't make it past the TSA, especially when you consider that the equipment would need to be larger than a checked bag, and no article I saw mentioned that the YouTuber had such equipment, but feel free to make up whatever you like.


Originally Posted by zebranz
Sorry but don't believe you- I has seen many passengers bigger fit in seats! Usually a seat and a half....

You're claiming you've seen passengers more than 9 feet tall and 3 feet wide at the shoulder fit in airline seats? :roll eyes: Does the Guinness Book of Records know about them?

GUWonder Dec 17, 2016 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by CDTraveler (Post 27626365)
1. Andre the Giant died in 1993. You might not have noticed, but unless the bear had a ticket in first class, the space available in which to cram the bear is noticeably less than the space of a 1993 flight.

2. the bear is 9 feet, Andre was only 7.

1. You might not have noticed, but I already noted that Andre the Giant was dead. The word "late" means something. ;)

2. The seated teddy bear is not 9 feet tall. Perhaps the stretched out bear is 9 feet tall. The giant Costco teddy bear can be squeezed into a typical fully upright lawn chair.

I would find this teddy bear in my neighboring plane seat on a 3-3 seat or bigger plane to be less problematic for my flight than some of the "people of size" I've had next to me on wide-body flights. A "9 ft" giant teddy bear makes for a more easily compressible and better body pillow than a "person of size".

Without a machine, I'm pretty sure I could stuff this teddy bear into a container that is well less than 6 feet on each of its L/H/W dimensions.

TWA884 Dec 17, 2016 2:31 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 27626646)
Without a machine, I'm pretty sure I could stuff this teddy bear into a container that is well less than 6 feet on each of its L/H/W dimensions.

It's a moot point.

GUWonder Dec 17, 2016 3:47 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 27626867)
It's a moot point.

The airline has checked baggage dimension limits too. Is that Delta statement a moot point too?

IIRC, DL policies are published to limit oversized checked luggage, on flights within the US, to be no more than 80 linear inches in its dimensions.


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