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Old Oct 17, 2016, 12:13 pm
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WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT), with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA), today announced it is issuing an emergency order to ban all Samsung Galaxy Note7 smartphone devices from air transportation in the United States. Individuals who own or possess a Samsung Galaxy Note7 device may not transport the device on their person, in carry-on baggage, or in checked baggage on flights to, from, or within the United States. This prohibition includes all Samsung Galaxy Note7 devices. The phones also cannot be shipped as air cargo. The ban will be effective on Saturday, October 15, 2016, at noon ET.

“We recognize that banning these phones from airlines will inconvenience some passengers, but the safety of all those aboard an aircraft must take priority,” said Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx. “We are taking this additional step because even one fire incident inflight poses a high risk of severe personal injury and puts many lives at risk.”

Device owners have experienced documented incidents of dangerous evolution of heat with both recalled and replacement Samsung Galaxy Note7 devices. Samsung and the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) acknowledged this imminent safety hazard with the company’s September 15, 2016 and October 13, 2016 recalls. Additionally, on October 11, 2016, Samsung suspended the manufacture and sale of the Samsung Galaxy Note7 device.

“The fire hazard with the original Note7 and with the replacement Note7 is simply too great for anyone to risk it and not respond to this official recall,” said CPSC Chairman Elliot F. Kaye. “I would like to remind consumers once again to take advantage of the remedies offered, including a full refund. It’s the right thing to do and the safest thing to do.”

What air travelers should know
  • If passengers attempt to travel by air with their Samsung Galaxy Note7 devices, they will be denied boarding.
  • Passengers who attempt to evade the ban by packing their phone in checked luggage are increasing the risk of a catastrophic incident. Anyone violating the ban may be subject to criminal prosecution in addition to fines.
  • Passengers currently traveling with Samsung Galaxy Note7 phones should contact Samsung or their wireless carrier immediately to obtain information about how to return their phones and arrange for a refund or a replacement phone. Samsung has provided guidance for customers about refund and replacement options, as well as how to contact wireless carriers, at http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/[external link]. Samsung is also answering customers’ questions at 1-844-365-6197.
  • If an airline representative observes that a passenger is in possession of a Samsung Note7 device prior to boarding an aircraft, the air carrier must deny boarding to the passenger unless and until the passenger divests themselves and their carry-on and checked baggage of the Samsung Galaxy Note7 device. Passengers absolutely should not pack the phones in their checked luggage.
  • If a flight crew member identifies that a passenger is in possession of a Samsung Galaxy Note7 device while the aircraft is in flight, the crew member must instruct the passenger to power off the device, not use or charge the device while aboard the aircraft, protect the device from accidental activation, including disabling any features that may turn on the device, such as alarm clocks, and keep the device on their person and not in the overhead compartment, seat back pocket, nor in any carry-on baggage, for the duration of the flight.
The Samsung Galaxy Note7 device is considered a forbidden hazardous material under the Federal Hazardous Material Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-185), which forbid airline passengers or crew from traveling with lithium cells or batteries or portable electronic devices that are likely to generate a dangerous evolution of heat. PHMSA has issued a special permit to Samsung to facilitate commercial shipment of the recalled devices by ground transportation.

The Emergency Order will be on display in the Federal Register display on Friday, October 14, 2016, and the ban will be effective on Saturday, October 15, 2016, at noon ET.For additional information on the recall, visit the CPSC website at www.cpsc.gov.

For additional information on returning your recalled Galaxy Note7 device to the manufacturer, call 1-800-SAMSUNG or 1-800-726-7864 or visit the website: http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/ [external link]

For additional information about safe travel with lithium batteries and other potentially hazardous materials, visit the DOT Safe Travel Website at http://phmsa.dot.gov/safetravel/batteries.

Additional passenger information from the FAA is available at: http://www.faa.gov/Go/PackSafe. For all other questions about the transportation of hazardous materials, contact PHMA’s Hazardous Materials Information Center at 1-800-467-4922 or [email protected]

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Old Oct 14, 2016, 6:36 pm
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DOT Bans Samsung Galaxy Note7 Phones From Commercial Flights

Can't wait until the TSA gets hold of this one. The ban becomes effective at noon on Saturday. It's a flight safety issue but you know the TSA will turn it into a terrorism issue. (How else is the DOT expecting to enforce the ban?)

WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT), with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA), today announced it is issuing an emergency order to ban all Samsung Galaxy Note7 smartphone devices from air transportation in the United States. Individuals who own or possess a Samsung Galaxy Note7 device may not transport the device on their person, in carry-on baggage, or in checked baggage on flights to, from, or within the United States. This prohibition includes all Samsung Galaxy Note7 devices. The phones also cannot be shipped as air cargo. The ban will be effective on Saturday, October 15, 2016, at noon ET.

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Of course, the banner headline on the TSA website is an advertisement for ExtortionCheck...

If anyone has any interesting checkpoint experiences from noon tomorrow onward, please share them with us!
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TSA without doubt has enough issues with screening and detection now without adding this but rightly or wrongly DOT has given them the mission. Unfortunately I'm having trouble not seeing this having the potential of a giant mess for TSA and travelers. Does it mean every cell phone is going to have to be screened for make and model? Are they going to just ask the passenger for that information? If so are passengers with their work or personal life all wrapped up in their Samsung Galaxy Note7 devices going to be forthcoming? And the list of questions and potential issues goes on and on. High probability of this not going well.

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Old Oct 15, 2016, 8:51 am
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A well-run operation will station polite TSOs well ahead of the TDC to ask pax (in an inside voice, no barking necessary) if they have this model of phone.

If this phone is globally banned, it will be interesting to hear how other nations handle the issue of keeping the phones off the planes.

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Old Oct 15, 2016, 9:14 am
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They are also banned in checked baggage. So that means that TSA might open every piece of baggage that has the profile of a Note 7 (which is similar to many others). And, presumably, they will remove any Note 7 which they find. This will probably be upsetting to people who don't have proper backup (or who need their Note 7 to return in exchange for something else). And what about the people who don't even have a Note 7 but get their device mistakenly taken. At least at the checkpoints people will have the option: a) to show that it isn't a Note 7; b) to decide not to fly until they can find a way to get their device home by an alternative means.
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Old Oct 15, 2016, 9:25 am
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A burning phone can be extinguished with a bottle of water, or juice, or even a jar of applesauce.

Oh, wait, TSA banned all those fire extinguishers to make us safer.
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Old Oct 15, 2016, 12:14 pm
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Can't wait until the TSA gets hold of this one. The ban becomes effective at noon on Saturday. It's a flight safety issue but you know the TSA will turn it into a terrorism issue. (How else is the DOT expecting to enforce the ban?)
If a GN7 is WEI that can't be made safe/controlled (unlike e.g. a compressed oxygen tank), then it's a good thing for TSA to screen for it.

Doesn't have to be terrorism-y at all. If you have something that randomly catches fire and maybe explodes, there's no mens rea needed.

If anything, it's more dangerous than dynamite. Dynamite only goes off if you detonate it, and can otherwise be stored & transported quite safely.
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Old Oct 15, 2016, 12:38 pm
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If you remove the battery is there still a fire risk? What if you just discard the battery?
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If you remove the battery is there still a fire risk? What if you just discard the battery?
Unfortunately, the Note7 is a sealed phone and the battery is not removable unlike earlier generations of Galaxy phones.
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Originally Posted by saizai
If a GN7 is WEI that can't be made safe/controlled (unlike e.g. a compressed oxygen tank), then it's a good thing for TSA to screen for it.

Doesn't have to be terrorism-y at all. If you have something that randomly catches fire and maybe explodes, there's no mens rea needed.

If anything, it's more dangerous than dynamite. Dynamite only goes off if you detonate it, and can otherwise be stored & transported quite safely.
I agree, and I think it's clear from the multiple incidents of GN7's catching fire in public, including at least one on an airplane which prompted the FAA ban, that this model of phone does constitute an incendiary device that cannot be rendered safe, however accidentally.

Samsung is globally recalling all GN7s worldwide and replacing them with another completely different model (of the user's choice), but that will probably take some time. In the interim, there will almost certainly be some folks who will try smuggling their GN7s aboard aircraft, using the excuse, "Well, I've had this phone for six months and I've never had a problem."
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I would hope that anyone with a GN7 would appreciate just how serious this issue is.

Is Samsung trying to charge this type battery to fast?

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I would hope that anyone with a GN7 would appreciate just how serious this issue is.

Is Samsung trying to charge this type battery to fast?
I don't know about charging but I had a trivia team member who had one and he handed it to me one evening. Damn thing was hot and that was just in normal use and was not charging. He dumped it and went with an iPhone. Doesn't like the iPhone and he has already said he'll go back to Samsung once they've solved the issue and established a reliable track record.
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This CNET article discusses the battery failures in the Samsung GN7. The cause may still be unknown.

https://www.cnet.com/news/why-is-sam...ng-overheating
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Its a hazmat issue, nothing more, nothing less. The fine for having, bringing etc is $179,993 on the high end.
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Old Oct 17, 2016, 5:33 am
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They are also banned in checked baggage. So that means that TSA might open every piece of baggage that has the profile of a Note 7 (which is similar to many others). And, presumably, they will remove any Note 7 which they find. This will probably be upsetting to people who don't have proper backup (or who need their Note 7 to return in exchange for something else). And what about the people who don't even have a Note 7 but get their device mistakenly taken. At least at the checkpoints people will have the option: a) to show that it isn't a Note 7; b) to decide not to fly until they can find a way to get their device home by an alternative means.
TSA doesn't remove items be a use they're banned. Instead the baggage isn't cleared to fly. The passenger is contacted and asked what to do. However this process may mean they miss their scheduled flight.
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