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mikeef May 24, 2016 3:07 pm

Tomorrow there will be a story on exactly how passengers will be punished because somebody made the organization look bad.

Mike

Boggie Dog May 25, 2016 12:10 pm

In what private business would a senior executive be removed from a position but retained in the company? I just don't understand that employment model.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...not-fired.html

Fox News learned Tuesday that Kelly Hoggan, the Transportation Security Administration’s head of security operations whose removal was widely reported late Monday, was merely put on paid administrative leave pending reassignment.

chollie May 25, 2016 12:26 pm

Complete silence as to who at TSA deliberately manipulated the bonus process to circumvent the rules and give Hoggan $90K in bonuses.

Who signed off on this? Why isn't s/he being held accountable?

Boggie Dog May 25, 2016 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 26680552)
Complete silence as to who at TSA deliberately manipulated the bonus process to circumvent the rules and give Hoggan $90K in bonuses.

Who signed off on this? Why isn't s/he being held accountable?


Probably doesn't work for government any longer.

TheTakeOffRush May 25, 2016 2:03 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 26680461)
In what private business would a senior executive be removed from a position but retained in the company? I just don't understand that employment model.

Yeah, curious. I was initially thinking this was the lag issue with many bureaucrats being hard to fire, but that's a mid and low level thing.

jkhuggins May 25, 2016 5:59 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 26680461)
In what private business would a senior executive be removed from a position but retained in the company? I just don't understand that employment model.

Oh, plenty of them. You simply make the person the Director of the Ministry of Silly Walks for a couple of years ... long enough for the person to fade out of the spotlight. Then the person can get a job with some other company. The person doesn't lose face, and the company spends the same amount of money in salary for doing nothing that they'd have to pay in a severance package and legal fees.

gingersnaps May 25, 2016 9:26 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 26680552)
Complete silence as to who at TSA deliberately manipulated the bonus process to circumvent the rules and give Hoggan $90K in bonuses.

Who signed off on this? Why isn't s/he being held accountable?

It known who did it.

Halisinki (sp)
and
Joseph Salvatore

DHS OIG made a nice flow chart how it worked.

Halisinki would say "Salvatore recommend Hoggan for a bonus" Salvatore would and Halisinki would sign off on it.

Hoggan should be held accountable for the scam that it was.

Hoggan has no credibility in my opinion. Rather than stepping forward and taling the blame for te 95% failure rate, he let Mel Caraway get roasted.

petaluma1 Jun 23, 2016 1:37 pm

Kelly Hoggan has left the TSA
 

Kelly Hoggan, the senior TSA official in charge of airport screening nationwide, who received more than $90,000 in bonuses despite known security weaknesses, has resigned, according to the agency. Friday was the last day for Hoggan, who ran the Office of Security Operations at the TSA from May 2013 until he was reassigned last month.
Hoggan

Boggie Dog Jun 23, 2016 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by petaluma1 (Post 26821406)

Hoggan should have been fired and not allowed to resign. He kept the $90,000 of our money too!

gingersnaps Jun 23, 2016 5:00 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 26821790)
Hoggan should have been fired and not allowed to resign. He kept the $90,000 of our money too!


And good ol Neffenger said he was satisfied with Hogan's performance.

RatherBeOnATrain Jun 24, 2016 9:12 am


Originally Posted by petaluma1 (Post 26821406)

From the article:

John Halinski, a former deputy administrator who saw some controversy himself, said Hoggan left the agency to start his own consulting business.
Guess which federal security agency he is going to consult for....

N830MH Jun 26, 2016 7:58 am


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 26821790)
Hoggan should have been fired and not allowed to resign. He kept the $90,000 of our money too!

Precisely! He should be fired. He will never work for TSA again. Those days are over!

FliesWay2Much Jun 26, 2016 11:39 am


Originally Posted by RatherBeOnATrain (Post 26824893)
From the article:


Guess which federal security agency he is going to consult for....

Fortunately, there are laws in place to prevent a retiree from representing a business back to his or her former employer for anywhere from one year to lifetime. Also, depending upon his specific responsibilities, he may have a one-year to lifetime ban on employment with certain companies.

So, in the meanwhile, he can be the coach in the booth sending in plays to the sidelines -- i.e.: not directly representing his company to his former employer but certainly directing business strategy and using his current insider knowledge. In that regard, the shelf life for usefulness as an insider is about 2-3 years. After that, your knowledge becomes stale and old and there are loads of other former SESs ready to take his place.

"Employer" takes on a different meaning as well. Francine may have determined that Hoggan's "employer" was the TSA, which would allow him to sell himself to any other DHS organization. Also, this doesn't prohibit him from consulting to the FAA, FBI, ATF or any other federal agency.

Like on PBS, "for further reading..." here are some of the specific government ethics rules:


Restrictions on Contacts with the Government on Behalf of Others
  • A former employee may be prohibited from having contact with an employee of any Federal agency or court, on behalf of another person or entity, concerning an official matter with which the former employee was involved as a Government employee. 18 U.S.C. § 207.
  • A former high-level employee or former political appointee may be prohibited from having contact with an employee of his or her former Federal agency (and perhaps certain officials at other agencies), on behalf of another person or entity, concerning any official matter. 18 U.S.C. § 207; Executive Order 13490 (the Ethics Pledge).
  • A former political appointee may be prohibited from lobbying a Government official on behalf of a client for whom he is registered as a lobbyist. Executive Order 13490 (the Ethics Pledge).




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