Updated: EU To Require Electronic Travel Authorization [ETIAS] for non-EU citizens
Apr 7, 2016, 8:09 am
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Updated: EU To Require Electronic Travel Authorization [ETIAS] for non-EU citizens
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...-idUSKCN0X4183
This is due to the EU trying to have a position of solidarity with other EU states on these matters. Personally, I'd be surprised if the Schengen countries go for anything more than a US-style ESTA type scheme (which is really an electronic visa scheme of sorts) any time soon; and even that would take some time to implement.
I wouldn't welcome this expanded requirement to get visas to travel.
http://time.com/4284875/eu-visa-united-states-canada/
Originally Posted by Reuters
EU may require visas from Americans and Canadians: EU source
The European Union executive is considering whether to make U.S. and Canadian citizens apply for visas before traveling to the bloc, a move that could raise tensions as Brussels negotiates a trade pact with Washington.
..... the European Commission must decide by April 12 whether to demand visas from countries who have similar requirements in place for one or more EU state.
Washington and Ottawa both demand entry visas from Romanians and Bulgarians, whose states joined the EU in 2007. The United States also excludes Croatians, Cypriots and Poles from a visa waiver scheme offered to other EU citizens.
The European Union executive is considering whether to make U.S. and Canadian citizens apply for visas before traveling to the bloc, a move that could raise tensions as Brussels negotiates a trade pact with Washington.
..... the European Commission must decide by April 12 whether to demand visas from countries who have similar requirements in place for one or more EU state.
Washington and Ottawa both demand entry visas from Romanians and Bulgarians, whose states joined the EU in 2007. The United States also excludes Croatians, Cypriots and Poles from a visa waiver scheme offered to other EU citizens.
I wouldn't welcome this expanded requirement to get visas to travel.
http://time.com/4284875/eu-visa-united-states-canada/
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Apr 7, 2016, 9:30 am
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Let's not forget that there was a period in the 1980s-1990s when France required visas of all USA citizens. The requirement was dropped before my IIRC three-year visa expired.
Apr 7, 2016, 11:24 am
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I never had a visa for France in any of my US passports that was valid during the 1990s. And I did visit France in the 1990s, or at least each year from 1991-2000.
Apr 7, 2016, 11:31 am
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And my opinion about this is the same as my opinion about my country having a quasi-visa thing via ESTA requirements.
More restrictive visa regimes indeed do further complicate travel for ordinary visitors more than for anybody else.
Apr 8, 2016, 4:16 pm
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Note: this issue isn't just about new EU states, but also citizens of existing states being arbitrarily excluded due to new laws that congress introduced in 2015.
// Edit: this is the official EU letter regarding the December 2015 US legislation: http://www.niacaction.org/eu-respond...r-reciprocity/
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Apr 9, 2016, 12:20 am
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Sane here. I had to get a French Visa in 1987 when I went to Paris sightseeing. To get it a Visa you had to fill out a form, drop off your Passport and form at the French Embassy, then wait for them to call you to retrieve your passport. There was a full page Visa, with your travel dates in a random page in your Passport.
Apr 9, 2016, 3:01 am
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The EU requiring visas from US citizens is long overdue, the reciprocity that visa agreements are normally based on was removed when the U.S. introduced ESTA, which constitutes a visa for all intents and purposes.
Apr 9, 2016, 8:35 am
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In addition, this tit-for-tat is plain stupid; the percetage of US citizens illegally overstaying the Schengen stay limits is miniscule compared to the percentage of Eastern Europeans, i.e., Romanians and Bulgarians, who remain in the US illegally past the expiration of their authorized entry permits.
Apr 9, 2016, 9:23 am
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American tourists are too much of a cash cow for many western European economies for that to happen as this will negatively affect the number of Americans traveling to Europe.
In addition, this tit-for-tat is plain stupid; the percetage of US citizens illegally overstaying the Schengen stay limits is miniscule compared to the percentage of Eastern Europeans, i.e., Romanians and Bulgarians, who remain in the US illegally past the expiration of their authorized entry permits.
In addition, this tit-for-tat is plain stupid; the percetage of US citizens illegally overstaying the Schengen stay limits is miniscule compared to the percentage of Eastern Europeans, i.e., Romanians and Bulgarians, who remain in the US illegally past the expiration of their authorized entry permits.
Apr 9, 2016, 10:16 am
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There is a big difference between obtaining an electronic entry permit and applying for a traditional visa.
Apr 9, 2016, 12:31 pm
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What is a visa but a permit to apply for entry? Apart from the way you apply for it and the paperwork required there's not much difference between "a proper" visa and ESTA, as evidenced by the fact you even have to pay for it.
Apr 9, 2016, 2:43 pm
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I consider the electronic entry permit to be but an electronic version of a traditional visa, with the primary difference being that the physical passport generally doesn't get into to the hands of the visa-issuing government's personnel until arrival in the visa-issuing country.