US passports' sex offender designation?
Nov 4, 2017, 9:21 pm
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It has nothing to do with sympathy for sex offenders nor for irregular migration. It has to do with whether or not government should be frustrating the international travel rights of otherwise free US citizens.
Nov 5, 2017, 10:01 am
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I agree with the above comment that Sex Offender critieria were becoming so
loose (and offenders so numerous) that the whole thing was becoming a runaway train, approaching 1 million people in the USA. California finally took the bull by the horns recently and stared implementing 10 or 15 or 20 year Sex Offender status (not lifetime) and for serious crimes, not Romeo and Juliet sex or mooning your frat buddies, or taking a leak on the edge of the river. Boy, Nathaniel Hawthorne saw that trend coming long ago.
loose (and offenders so numerous) that the whole thing was becoming a runaway train, approaching 1 million people in the USA. California finally took the bull by the horns recently and stared implementing 10 or 15 or 20 year Sex Offender status (not lifetime) and for serious crimes, not Romeo and Juliet sex or mooning your frat buddies, or taking a leak on the edge of the river. Boy, Nathaniel Hawthorne saw that trend coming long ago.
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Nov 5, 2017, 11:07 pm
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I agree with the above comment that Sex Offender critieria were becoming so
loose (and offenders so numerous) that the whole thing was becoming a runaway train, approaching 1 million people in the USA. California finally took the bull by the horns recently and stared implementing 10 or 15 or 20 year Sex Offender status (not lifetime) and for serious crimes, not Romeo and Juliet sex or mooning your frat buddies, or taking a leak on the edge of the river. Boy, Nathaniel Hawthorne saw that trend coming long ago.
loose (and offenders so numerous) that the whole thing was becoming a runaway train, approaching 1 million people in the USA. California finally took the bull by the horns recently and stared implementing 10 or 15 or 20 year Sex Offender status (not lifetime) and for serious crimes, not Romeo and Juliet sex or mooning your frat buddies, or taking a leak on the edge of the river. Boy, Nathaniel Hawthorne saw that trend coming long ago.
Nov 20, 2017, 7:30 am
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has an image of what is done.
I am pretty sure that passport control stamping authorities at foreign airports of entry almost never read that inside back cover/“endorsement” page on US passports. Perhaps the USG didn’t want the language placed on the biodata page as it is way more likely to then result in a US citizen’s beating, torture and/or death at the hands of foreign persons than with its dog and pony show placement on the IBC page.
has an image of what is done.
I am pretty sure that passport control stamping authorities at foreign airports of entry almost never read that inside back cover/“endorsement” page on US passports. Perhaps the USG didn’t want the language placed on the biodata page as it is way more likely to then result in a US citizen’s beating, torture and/or death at the hands of foreign persons than with its dog and pony show placement on the IBC page.
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Nov 20, 2017, 3:36 pm
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I am pretty sure that passport control stamping authorities at foreign airports of entry almost never read that inside back cover/“endorsement” page on US passports. Perhaps the USG didn’t want the language placed on the biodata page as it is way more likely to then result in a US citizen’s beating, torture and/or death at the hands of foreign persons than with its dog and pony show placement on the IBC page.
has an image of what is done.
I am pretty sure that passport control stamping authorities at foreign airports of entry almost never read that inside back cover/“endorsement” page on US passports. Perhaps the USG didn’t want the language placed on the biodata page as it is way more likely to then result in a US citizen’s beating, torture and/or death at the hands of foreign persons than with its dog and pony show placement on the IBC page.
That's the same place where they put:
"This is a second passport issued by the State Department under __ CFR ___" and
"This passport replaces a stolen passport."
No one reads those.
Dec 6, 2017, 2:45 pm
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This is pretty bad. Some US passport applicants have been issued passports with the sex offender warning language in it despite legally not being covered sex offenders for purposes of being required to have such marking in their passports. Now State is telling some such people to deal with DHS to get it straightened out before they can reapply for a new US passport/put in for a passport correction.
Dec 7, 2017, 6:15 am
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has an image of what is done.
I am pretty sure that passport control stamping authorities at foreign airports of entry almost never read that inside back cover/“endorsement” page on US passports. Perhaps the USG didn’t want the language placed on the biodata page as it is way more likely to then result in a US citizen’s beating, torture and/or death at the hands of foreign persons than with its dog and pony show placement on the IBC page.
has an image of what is done.
I am pretty sure that passport control stamping authorities at foreign airports of entry almost never read that inside back cover/“endorsement” page on US passports. Perhaps the USG didn’t want the language placed on the biodata page as it is way more likely to then result in a US citizen’s beating, torture and/or death at the hands of foreign persons than with its dog and pony show placement on the IBC page.
Dec 7, 2017, 10:52 am
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For current, former and future US federal legislators with a sex offender history, not all such histories are treated equally, but they are to end up flagged the same way if they are registered sex offenders of a sort.
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This is pretty bad. Some US passport applicants have been issued passports with the sex offender warning language in it despite legally not being covered sex offenders for purposes of being required to have such marking in their passports. Now State is telling some such people to deal with DHS to get it straightened out before they can reapply for a new US passport/put in for a passport correction.
Given how few adults review their passports’ last couple of pages and the IBC, especially if they’ve had a US passport before, I have to wonder not only how many mistakes have been made, but how frequently mistaken designations have gone unnoticed but deserved a complaint against the false flag designation.
Oct 13, 2018, 6:27 am
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It's a felony.
18 U.S. Code § 1543 - Forgery or false use of passport
"Whoever … mutilates, or alters any passport …, with intent that the same may be used; or
Whoever willfully and knowingly uses, or attempts to use, or furnishes to another for use any such … mutilated, or altered passport … —
Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned … 10 years (in the case of the first or second such offense, if the offense was not committed to facilitate such an act of international terrorism or a drug trafficking crime), or 15 years (in the case of any other offense), or both."
18 U.S. Code § 1543 - Forgery or false use of passport
"Whoever … mutilates, or alters any passport …, with intent that the same may be used; or
Whoever willfully and knowingly uses, or attempts to use, or furnishes to another for use any such … mutilated, or altered passport … —
Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned … 10 years (in the case of the first or second such offense, if the offense was not committed to facilitate such an act of international terrorism or a drug trafficking crime), or 15 years (in the case of any other offense), or both."
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Oct 13, 2018, 2:00 pm
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It's a felony.
18 U.S. Code § 1543 - Forgery or false use of passport
"Whoever … mutilates, or alters any passport …, with intent that the same may be used; or
Whoever willfully and knowingly uses, or attempts to use, or furnishes to another for use any such … mutilated, or altered passport … —
Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 25 years (if the offense was committed to facilitate an act of international terrorism (as defined in section 2331 of this title)), 20 years (if the offense was committed to facilitate a drug trafficking crime (as defined in section 929(a) of this title)), 10 years (in the case of the first or second such offense, if the offense was not committed to facilitate such an act of international terrorism or a drug trafficking crime), or 15 years (in the case of any other offense), or both."
18 U.S. Code § 1543 - Forgery or false use of passport
"Whoever … mutilates, or alters any passport …, with intent that the same may be used; or
Whoever willfully and knowingly uses, or attempts to use, or furnishes to another for use any such … mutilated, or altered passport … —
Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 25 years (if the offense was committed to facilitate an act of international terrorism (as defined in section 2331 of this title)), 20 years (if the offense was committed to facilitate a drug trafficking crime (as defined in section 929(a) of this title)), 10 years (in the case of the first or second such offense, if the offense was not committed to facilitate such an act of international terrorism or a drug trafficking crime), or 15 years (in the case of any other offense), or both."