TSA going to stop allowing NOS opt-out?
Dec 23, 2015, 1:30 pm
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Th TSA has a history of trying to white-wash what it is doing or intends to do, when it comes to Congressional inquiry.
The TSA made the three-year old girl go into the strip-search machine and get scanned that way? I have kids in my extended family who would gum up the machine for who knows how long if airside entry was conditioned on them
using the strip-search machines.
The TSA made the three-year old girl go into the strip-search machine and get scanned that way? I have kids in my extended family who would gum up the machine for who knows how long if airside entry was conditioned on them
using the strip-search machines.
Dec 23, 2015, 2:16 pm
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The current machines do not use X-ray technology but there is a possibility that x-ray type Strip Search machines will be brought back in the future.
Dec 23, 2015, 2:29 pm
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I saw a pax being forced to use a NoS after he was "randomly selected" at the WTMD. This was back in June at PHL and the 2 striper was ADAMANT that the pax was not allowed to opt out, even though said pax repeatedly refused and stated a preference for a pat down.
Nothing in writing says that this is limited in any way (reports of "if on the watchlist" notwithstanding), so I expect to be be refused entry to the sterile area at some point in the future when I refuse to enter the NoS.
Nothing in writing says that this is limited in any way (reports of "if on the watchlist" notwithstanding), so I expect to be be refused entry to the sterile area at some point in the future when I refuse to enter the NoS.
Dec 23, 2015, 2:33 pm
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I saw a pax being forced to use a NoS after he was "randomly selected" at the WTMD. This was back in June at PHL and the 2 striper was ADAMANT that the pax was not allowed to opt out, even though said pax repeatedly refused and stated a preference for a pat down.
Nothing in writing says that this is limited in any way (reports of "if on the watchlist" notwithstanding), so I expect to be be refused entry to the sterile area at some point in the future when I refuse to enter the NoS.
Nothing in writing says that this is limited in any way (reports of "if on the watchlist" notwithstanding), so I expect to be be refused entry to the sterile area at some point in the future when I refuse to enter the NoS.
Last edited by tanja; Dec 23, 2015 at 2:40 pm
Dec 23, 2015, 3:01 pm
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I'll be flying tomorrow morning out of PIT, then back on Sunday from MKE. Plan on opting out like I always do. I'm expecting to be able to no problem, as I'm sure I don't fit the demographic they're looking to force through the NoS. Guess we'll see.
Dec 23, 2015, 3:04 pm
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Appreciate you doing this. ^ Left a message for one of my congress critters- curious to see what they end up saying.
Dec 23, 2015, 3:24 pm
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FWIW, contact I had via a Congressman suggests that the new no opt out policy only really affects people on the watch lists. But it is unclear how, among other things, that would work out since the TSA won't tell you if you're on the watch lists.
n.b. The link above is to my blog or to one which I am a regular contributor. FT rules require that I disclose that in the post.
n.b. The link above is to my blog or to one which I am a regular contributor. FT rules require that I disclose that in the post.
Dec 23, 2015, 3:26 pm
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FWIW, contact I had via a Congressman suggests that the new no opt out policy only really affects people on the watch lists. But it is unclear how, among other things, that would work out since the TSA won't tell you if you're on the watch lists.
n.b. The link above is to my blog or to one which I am a regular contributor. FT rules require that I disclose that in the post.
n.b. The link above is to my blog or to one which I am a regular contributor. FT rules require that I disclose that in the post.
Dec 23, 2015, 3:34 pm
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FWIW, contact I had via a Congressman suggests that the new no opt out policy only really affects people on the watch lists. But it is unclear how, among other things, that would work out since the TSA won't tell you if you're on the watch lists.
n.b. The link above is to my blog or to one which I am a regular contributor. FT rules require that I disclose that in the post.
n.b. The link above is to my blog or to one which I am a regular contributor. FT rules require that I disclose that in the post.
Those who get haraSSSSment boarding passes due to being on the watch lists can just try their luck with checking in on various carriers for domestic US flights to see what happens when they go to get screened by the TSA.
Dec 23, 2015, 5:01 pm
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CNN is now reporting the story (no real added information to that which has already been reported here):
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/23/travel...nge/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/23/travel...nge/index.html
Dec 23, 2015, 5:18 pm
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Um, asking for a friend - :-)
What happens if I just flat out refuse to go through the scanner? I have been threatened several times with "you can't leave, you MUST complete screening." What happens when I don't go through the machine? Will I just have to stand there forever?
I have serious issues with the surrender pose and I will never do it under any circumstances.
What happens if I just flat out refuse to go through the scanner? I have been threatened several times with "you can't leave, you MUST complete screening." What happens when I don't go through the machine? Will I just have to stand there forever?
I have serious issues with the surrender pose and I will never do it under any circumstances.
Dec 23, 2015, 6:34 pm
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Um, asking for a friend - :-)
What happens if I just flat out refuse to go through the scanner? I have been threatened several times with "you can't leave, you MUST complete screening." What happens when I don't go through the machine? Will I just have to stand there forever?
I have serious issues with the surrender pose and I will never do it under any circumstances.
What happens if I just flat out refuse to go through the scanner? I have been threatened several times with "you can't leave, you MUST complete screening." What happens when I don't go through the machine? Will I just have to stand there forever?
I have serious issues with the surrender pose and I will never do it under any circumstances.