CONFIRMED: TSA now checks for adults transporting children illegally
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From my posts it is clear I have no love lost for the TSA, Homeland Insecurity or the gubmint.
While it more than fair game to debate and castigate them for their policies and actions it really is beyond the pale to liken any of them as an institution to pederasts and murderers even as there have been some individuals among them who are.
While it more than fair game to debate and castigate them for their policies and actions it really is beyond the pale to liken any of them as an institution to pederasts and murderers even as there have been some individuals among them who are.
Given the TSA's approach is to get child passengers to lower their guard against strangers and to get such young persons used to being groped by strangers, is it really any surprise that some people find the TSA to be a sociopathic going concern, if even absent deliberate intent to be a sociopathic concern? It would be interesting to see how John Walsh deals with his conflicted positions.
She's just following directions from her higher-up. I highly doubt she sets policy and procedure.
With that said, yes, it's another worthless version of "The name game".
Curious to see what their reaction would be to a child with non-verbal autism? Or one who is just defiant.
With that said, yes, it's another worthless version of "The name game".
Curious to see what their reaction would be to a child with non-verbal autism? Or one who is just defiant.
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Well I don't think TSA employees are as dumb as pigs, perhaps you do.
When anyone is presented with a TSA screener who appears to be off the farm in their actions there is ample reason to not only question the situation but to push the issue up that persons chain of command. Ask that the TSM for that terminal be summoned and address the problem.
If it just happens to be the former Philly Pedo Priest, a TSA TSM, you'll probably have a bad day, but nothing will happen if the problem is not addressed.
If TSA doesn't want people to draw comparisons to a less than desirable element then perhaps TSA shouldn't do things that makes arriving at that comparison so easy to make. Just saying!
When anyone is presented with a TSA screener who appears to be off the farm in their actions there is ample reason to not only question the situation but to push the issue up that persons chain of command. Ask that the TSM for that terminal be summoned and address the problem.
If it just happens to be the former Philly Pedo Priest, a TSA TSM, you'll probably have a bad day, but nothing will happen if the problem is not addressed.
If TSA doesn't want people to draw comparisons to a less than desirable element then perhaps TSA shouldn't do things that makes arriving at that comparison so easy to make. Just saying!
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Lots of talk of pigs and farms...
Not sure if people are confusing George Orwell's Animal Farm with his other work, 1984.
But to take it a step further, I would say that the government is using both as training manuals.
Tighten up your tinfoil hat, they can read your thoughts. First step, the BDO program next step, the precogs in the Pre-Crime unit.
Thought Crimes, Word Crimes, and Blurred Lines (Robin Thicke) oh my!
Not sure if people are confusing George Orwell's Animal Farm with his other work, 1984.
But to take it a step further, I would say that the government is using both as training manuals.
Tighten up your tinfoil hat, they can read your thoughts. First step, the BDO program next step, the precogs in the Pre-Crime unit.
Thought Crimes, Word Crimes, and Blurred Lines (Robin Thicke) oh my!
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I'm pointing out that there's a certain futility in protesting a policy to a low-level employee who has no influence over the imposition of the policy, and whose job might be in jeopardy if they refuse to follow the policy. (After all, aren't we the ones who claim that TSOs ought to be fired who don't know the rules?)
And, hey, if you want to spend a couple of hours at the checkpoint asserting your right to protest that decision, moving as far up the management chain as you can, and generally asserting your Constitutional rights of free speech, that's your choice, and you're quite free to do so. I won't judge.
For me, I'd rather spend that time trying to contact someone who actually could do something about it. Because I don't get any joy from tormenting low-level employees who are asked to follow idiotic policies. For me, it's trying to teach a pig to sing.
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No, I don't.
I'm pointing out that there's a certain futility in protesting a policy to a low-level employee who has no influence over the imposition of the policy, and whose job might be in jeopardy if they refuse to follow the policy. (After all, aren't we the ones who claim that TSOs ought to be fired who don't know the rules?)
And, hey, if you want to spend a couple of hours at the checkpoint asserting your right to protest that decision, moving as far up the management chain as you can, and generally asserting your Constitutional rights of free speech, that's your choice, and you're quite free to do so. I won't judge.
For me, I'd rather spend that time trying to contact someone who actually could do something about it. Because I don't get any joy from tormenting low-level employees who are asked to follow idiotic policies. For me, it's trying to teach a pig to sing.
I'm pointing out that there's a certain futility in protesting a policy to a low-level employee who has no influence over the imposition of the policy, and whose job might be in jeopardy if they refuse to follow the policy. (After all, aren't we the ones who claim that TSOs ought to be fired who don't know the rules?)
And, hey, if you want to spend a couple of hours at the checkpoint asserting your right to protest that decision, moving as far up the management chain as you can, and generally asserting your Constitutional rights of free speech, that's your choice, and you're quite free to do so. I won't judge.
For me, I'd rather spend that time trying to contact someone who actually could do something about it. Because I don't get any joy from tormenting low-level employees who are asked to follow idiotic policies. For me, it's trying to teach a pig to sing.
If you don't start the complaint process right then and there it will not have happened when you complain to whom ever. Calling for the TSM for that terminal should elevate the issue to get some attention and allows the traveler to determine if an airport or higher policy is in play or an individual screener playing junior G man games. Trying to make contact with the TSA CSR for that airport could also be beneficial.