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jspira Sep 13, 2015 10:29 am

Germany Institutes Border Controls with Austria
 
This came about as a result of the migrant/refugee crisis. Having lived in Germany before controls were lifted and having waited to cross the border into Austria numerous times, I have to imagine it must be quite chaotic at the major crossings esp. without any train service.

Germany Institutes Border Controls with Austria, Shuts Down Trains Between the 2 Countries

Germany announced on Sunday that it was reinstating temporary controls at its southern border with Austria, using emergency powers after being overwhelmed by the tens of thousands of migrants from countries including Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria....

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Above was published in FBT, where I serve as Ed.Dir.

GUWonder Sep 13, 2015 2:22 pm

Is flying from Austria into Germany currently hit by these temporary German checks?

stockmanjr Sep 13, 2015 5:49 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 25419410)
Is flying from Austria into Germany currently hit by these temporary German checks?

From what I've seen it's only land border crossings as that's how the migrants are entering.
Cheers
Howie

GUWonder Sep 14, 2015 12:51 am


Originally Posted by stockmanjr (Post 25420204)
From what I've seen it's only land border crossings as that's how the migrants are entering.
Cheers
Howie

Refugees and others have also been entering Germany by air, but traditionally most intra-Schengen flight passengers arriving into Germany aren't checked for immigration/customs control purpose. I'm just wondering if say Austria-Germany flights now get a gate-area "reception" like say some international AMS-Schengen flights.

firecracker725 Sep 14, 2015 1:00 am

Oh this should be fun for us if they don't change it in the next couple of weeks. We're planning on driving into Innsbruck after Oktoberfest.

:D! Sep 14, 2015 2:51 am


Originally Posted by firecracker725 (Post 25421284)
Oh this should be fun for us if they don't change it in the next couple of weeks. We're planning on driving into Innsbruck after Oktoberfest.

Hmm, given that the "problem" flow is unidirectional, are the controls also in place going from Germany to Austria?

GUWonder Sep 14, 2015 3:32 am


Originally Posted by :D! (Post 25421544)
Hmm, given that the "problem" flow is unidirectional, are the controls also in place going from Germany to Austria?

One-way, international car rentals are often considerably more expensive than rentals where the car is returned to the same location and/or country as in which it was rented.

A rental car from say Germany or Italy going into Innsbruck is highly likely to be returning to the country in which it was initially rented (for example, Germany or Italy).

Alex71 Sep 14, 2015 4:04 am

I remember border crossings in pre-Schengen times as being pretty painless. Usually, most cars were simply waved through, some had to stop and folks had to hand their passports over to the border agent.

It may take a bit of time until it will all run smoothly, but I'm sure it will eventually be fine, at least for cars. I'm expecting more checks of trucks though.

firecracker725 Sep 14, 2015 4:10 am


Originally Posted by :D! (Post 25421544)
Hmm, given that the "problem" flow is unidirectional, are the controls also in place going from Germany to Austria?

I wouldn't know, but we have to drive back from Austria into Germany. We live in France. Innsbruck is just a quick day trip for us from Neuschwanstein.

firecracker725 Sep 14, 2015 4:13 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 25421636)
One-way, international car rentals are often considerably more expensive than rentals where the car is returned to the same location and/or country as in which it was rented.

A rental car from say Germany or Italy going into Innsbruck is highly likely to be returning to the country in which it was initially rented (for example, Germany or Italy).

We're renting the car in France (Enterprise is about a block from our home) and returning it in France, so that isn't an issue to us. Our route takes us through Switzerland to Munich, down to Innsbruck and back through Germany and Switzerland.

cestmoi123 Sep 14, 2015 6:06 am


Originally Posted by firecracker725 (Post 25421729)
We're renting the car in France (Enterprise is about a block from our home) and returning it in France, so that isn't an issue to us. Our route takes us through Switzerland to Munich, down to Innsbruck and back through Germany and Switzerland.

As a heads-up, you'll need to get an Austrian "Vignette" for your car to drive it on most of the highways in Austria. It's possible your rental will already have one, but very unlikely if it's a French car. You can order one in advance, or get one at any of the gas stations in Germany close to the Austrian border. Costs about €9 if I remember correctly. If you don't have one, you can face a significant fine, around €300.

GUWonder Sep 14, 2015 6:38 am


Originally Posted by cestmoi123 (Post 25422014)
As a heads-up, you'll need to get an Austrian "Vignette" for your car to drive it on most of the highways in Austria. It's possible your rental will already have one, but very unlikely if it's a French car. You can order one in advance, or get one at any of the gas stations in Germany close to the Austrian border. Costs about €9 if I remember correctly. If you don't have one, you can face a significant fine, around €300.

It's indeed a little less than 9EUR for ten days of Austrian highway driving.

I get my Austrian or Swiss vignettes on my French, German, Italian and Swiss rental cars right on the side of the major highways at stores at/near the border crossings.

firecracker725 Sep 14, 2015 6:45 am


Originally Posted by cestmoi123 (Post 25422014)
As a heads-up, you'll need to get an Austrian "Vignette" for your car to drive it on most of the highways in Austria. It's possible your rental will already have one, but very unlikely if it's a French car. You can order one in advance, or get one at any of the gas stations in Germany close to the Austrian border. Costs about €9 if I remember correctly. If you don't have one, you can face a significant fine, around €300.

Thanks, as I said, I live in France, so I've driven quite a bit in Europe. Most of the cars here have the Swiss vignette, as we're very close to that border. That one is a good bit more expensive than the Austrian one.

mfkne Sep 14, 2015 7:11 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 25421261)
I'm just wondering if say Austria-Germany flights now get a gate-area "reception" like say some international AMS-Schengen flights.

Which receptions are you speaking of?

GUWonder Sep 14, 2015 7:41 am


Originally Posted by mfkne (Post 25422251)
Which receptions are you speaking of?

Passport and/or customs control questioning at the arrival gates/jetbridge.


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