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skybluesea Aug 15, 2015 8:30 pm

Ban Trusted Traveller Reference
 
Since when does additional security protocols applied for access to NEXUS, Global Entry, etc. convert the traveler to some kind of "Trusted" status.

The fact that such travellers are still subject to various ongoing protocols, including biometric verification, only makes them better known.

in goods movement business, border control agencies make reference to "Known Shippers" - while this too can be interpreted somewhat broadly, a more accurate reflection would be something like "Registered Travelers".

Governments should immediately ban use of "trusted traveller" as by implication, this means everyone else is "untrusted" - this presumes that citizens and visitors alike when crossing the border are guilty in some way and should not be treated as something dangerous that "untrustworthy" would suggest.

thoughts please!

Yoshi212 Aug 15, 2015 8:44 pm

It's a marketing tool. Makes people feel like real security is actual happening. I pay for it to get away from the additional hassles of TSA/CATSA but that is all it really is a way to get money from those willing to pay and register people. We are sheep lead by wolves.

STBCypriot Aug 16, 2015 5:22 pm

But But But.... everyone IS untrusted. That's why we have security theater.

SeriouslyLost Aug 16, 2015 10:04 pm


Originally Posted by skybluesea (Post 25277166)
thoughts please!

First world problem?

Cargojon Aug 17, 2015 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by skybluesea (Post 25277166)
Since when does additional security protocols applied for access to NEXUS, Global Entry, etc. convert the traveler to some kind of "Trusted" status.

The fact that such travellers are still subject to various ongoing protocols, including biometric verification, only makes them better known.

in goods movement business, border control agencies make reference to "Known Shippers" - while this too can be interpreted somewhat broadly, a more accurate reflection would be something like "Registered Travelers".

Governments should immediately ban use of "trusted traveller" as by implication, this means everyone else is "untrusted" - this presumes that citizens and visitors alike when crossing the border are guilty in some way and should not be treated as something dangerous that "untrustworthy" would suggest.

thoughts please!

No, actually the requirements of Known Shipper status are actually very clear in the regulations.


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