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RussianTexan Jun 1, 2015 4:31 pm

CNN: TSA Screeners Failed 67 Of 70 Tests
 
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/01/politi...sts/index.html

HawaiiTrvlr Jun 1, 2015 5:10 pm


Originally Posted by Superguy (Post 24902618)
Fox picked it up as well:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...a-checkpoints/

I gotta say though, after coming off a long LHR-CLT flight and finding my onward segment couldn't get pre-check to work, the TSA massage was actually quite relaxing. :D

CNN has now picked it up. It will be interesting if it makes the national network news programs too. Edited to add: Just saw the preview for the NBC Nightly News and it is their lead story.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/01/politi...sts/index.html

I wonder how long it will take Blogger Bob to spin the test results.

javabytes Jun 1, 2015 5:12 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 24901002)
So what many of us already knew is now public information ;) but a show of hands-how many think anything will actually be done to rectify the problem? ;)

While these numbers are an embarrassment to the TSA, they will not pass up the opportunity to push for more invasive screening measures.

petaluma1 Jun 1, 2015 5:14 pm


Originally Posted by HawaiiTrvlr (Post 24903629)
CNN has now picked it up. It will be interesting if it makes the national network news programs too.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/01/politi...sts/index.html

I wonder how long it will take Blogger Bob to spin the test results.

Lead story on NBC Nightly News.

javabytes Jun 1, 2015 5:40 pm


Originally Posted by HawaiiTrvlr (Post 24903629)
I wonder how long it will take Blogger Bob to spin the test results.

TSA doesn't need to find weapons and explosives. They knew the red team meant no harm by reading their micro expressions. ;)

Rabidstoat Jun 1, 2015 6:27 pm

The weird thing is that I keep hearing stories (and have some myself) of people accidentally carrying through security pocket knives, paring knives, fireworks(!), and all manners of sharp or explosive items.

But I swear, I never hear of a single person getting a bottle of water accidentally past the check point. If there is one thing TSA has down, it is ferreting out scary bottles of water!

Boggie Dog Jun 1, 2015 6:42 pm


Originally Posted by HawaiiTrvlr (Post 24903629)
CNN has now picked it up. It will be interesting if it makes the national network news programs too. Edited to add: Just saw the preview for the NBC Nightly News and it is their lead story.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/01/politi...sts/index.html

I wonder how long it will take Blogger Bob to spin the test results.

The TSA Blog is irrevelant and nothing but a propaganda machine. Same for the blog team.

jkhuggins Jun 1, 2015 6:53 pm

NBC Nightly News report (both video and text versions):

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...hrough-n367851

CPRich Jun 1, 2015 8:21 pm


A Homeland Security spokesperson said that "the numbers in these reports never look good out of context,
I wonder what context makes a 4% success rate look good.

FliesWay2Much Jun 1, 2015 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by javabytes (Post 24903637)
While these numbers are an embarrassment to the TSA, they will not pass up the opportunity to push for more invasive screening measures.

Yep... You can bet that We, The People, will pay dearly for this.

Loren Pechtel Jun 1, 2015 9:35 pm

Yeah, my last flight I carried that TSA-acceptable Letherman tool. Outbound--nobody noticed. Return--nobody noticed. I left something on the plane and had to go back to the gate to retrieve it--finally noticed, I told him what it was but he needed to eyeball it as the X-ray only seeks a block of metal, it can't tell that it's the TSA-safe version.

N830MH Jun 1, 2015 11:41 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 24900585)
Now we know the 75% failure rate is no longer valid. Must be hard to get worse at ones job.

Yes, it could get worse, more worst and worst. That is problems. They failed to find a gun, weapons, knives, and explosives, as well as boxcutters. No one who taking their own responsibilities. You must passed the aviation security. You have be more responsible. It's your job. It was not TSA/DHS fault.

tmorse6570 Jun 2, 2015 12:19 am

Should the TSA really be telling the world how bad they're doing?

saizai Jun 2, 2015 1:27 am


Originally Posted by Rabidstoat (Post 24903926)
The weird thing is that I keep hearing stories (and have some myself) of people accidentally carrying through security pocket knives, paring knives, fireworks(!), and all manners of sharp or explosive items.

I actually once — accidentally — brought a full size kitchen knife into a courthouse. (I had it in my bag from a birthday party a couple days before, where it was needed to cut the cake. Just plain forgot that it was there.)

I came in full motorcycle leathers, and my bag got x-rayed by the court's door cop, but I think he was too distracted by my leathers to notice. (IIRC my leathers set off the WTMD and I think he let that pass too.)

I was just there to drop off some papers. Went to get 'em from my bag to hand to the clerk, went :eek: internally when I saw the knife, ignored it, filed, walked out without incident, and put it back in the kitchen when I got home.

Though now that I think of it, I wonder how TSA would deal with someone in full leathers, or one of the various other bulky, hard to remove, semi-metallic full body clothing items. Would being armored (but not armed) be considered a 'weapon'? :confused:

CaptainMiles Jun 2, 2015 5:15 am

And it's get scarierfunnier when you think that the 5% is close to the rate of random selections anyway. Those 5% catches were probably random. Gotta love it.


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