Randomness

Arrested at ORD again:

'Serial stowaway' arrested at O'Hare days after judge bans her from airport - Chicago Tribune

Boggie Dog

This woman clearly has some issue which makes reasonable behavior impossible for her. Detention in a secure facility seems a likely outcome.

N830MH

Yes, I am aware of this. She won't change her behaviors. Because she was banned ORD, MDW, Greyhound bus and Amtrak, as well. She needs psychiatrist. She was supposed to stay at mental health facility, but she cannot leaves. She always breaks the rules. She doesn't listen. She's trying to get past at security again without ticket.

Ridiculous! She didn't listen. She was not supposed to be there. She won't change her behaviors. Why does she doing it?

Section 107

Ah, yes, the John Cena "You-Don't-See-Me" trick - hmm, seems to have worked better for her than him! I love this part:

During her Jan. 20 bond hearing, prosecutors said Hartman used her hair to hide her face and walk past two federal Transportation Security Administration pre-check agents

WillCAD

Cousin Itt must never pay for a ticket, then.

chollie

Only if the screeners who let her through receive the same punishment.

Boggie Dog

She clearly has some medical issues and even while being directed to not repeat going to the airport she failed to comply with the courts order. I don't hold TSA blameless but the two issues are separate and different issues.

This lady has some serious issues that need to be dealt with before something bad happens.

Randyk47

N830MH

Well Guys,

The judge is denied to release her from jail. She's currently in Cook County jail. She was not cooperating with the judge & the lawyer, too. She doesn't listen to the judge. She didn't take her medication. She must take a medication. She won't change her behaviors.

Judge Denies Request To Release ?Serial Stowaway? Marilyn Hartman « CBS Chicago

Sorry Guys!

Boggie Dog

I'm not sure the county jail is the right place for this lady. She needs mental health treatment in an in patient environment.

chollie

I think she should be on the payroll of an independent government watchdog.

She's the best 'secret shopper'/security tester around. She keeps exposing glaring weaknesses: while TSOs are rubbing genitals and confiscating breast milk and harassing wheelchair pax, she continues to waltz past their 'security'.

If TSA doesn't like being embarrassed by her, perhaps they should start providing genuine security instead of harassing, bullying 'theater'.

WillCAD

There is really only one part of TSA's security that she really has to circumvent or fool, and that's the TDC. She's not smuggling prohibited items in, so it really doesn't matter how effective the screening is - she's getting past the TDC's check of her boarding pass vs ID. Which most of us agree has zero security benefit, anyway, so really, I don't care one bit that she's getting past it.

I do enjoy hearing TSA double-talk about how "ID matters!" and "You can't fly without valid ID!" while at the same time they say, "Well, it doesn't matter if her ID doesn't match her BP, because she was physically screened and presented no threat." Which invalidates the idea that ID matters at all. Hilarious!

I put more onus on the carriers for a stowaway issue. How does someone get aboard a plane without a valid boarding pass? Do random people simply walk past the GA while they're busy collecting BPs from the boarding queue? Or does this woman actually present a fraudulent BP to the GAs to gain access to an aircraft? I can't believe there is a failure of imagination on this one; sneaking in or presenting fake documents are both basic, simple ideas that should be among the first addressed by any sort of physical security or access control scheme.

chollie

I agree, the airlines share the blame. This isn't a diabolical, well-trained terrorist - not as far as I know, anyway - yet she continues to cirumvent the combined efforts of TSA and the airlines to ensure that they know WHO is entering the sterile area and WHO is boarding a plane at any given time.

Randyk47

petaluma1

How long before she slips out of whatever facility she's put in?

Serial Stowaway Ruled Unfit For Trial; Will Undergo Mental Treatment « CBS Chicago