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You can fly without ID. They put you through an "S" inspection. I did it a few years ago when I accidentally left my driver's license at home.
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Originally Posted by Dubai Stu
(Post 23413460)
You can fly without ID. They put you through an "S" inspection. I did it a few years ago when I accidentally left my driver's license at home.
TSA doesn't want to come out and say that if the screening process is done correctly, it doesn't matter whether or not the pax have ID, there's no threat to aviation security. If TSA says that (which is true), then it prompts the question: why is the US the only country in the world that does this unnecessary-for-aviation-safety ID check. |
The entire ID check is guise to protect airline revenue so people do not fly on another ticket that will be worthless for non use or so gain an high elite status. The entire ID check is joke. All that matters is the individuals on the flight do not have weapons or devices to cause harm to others.
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I have no problem with illegal aliens boarding flights without ID since the sole purpose of theTSA is to prevent weapons onboard. IMHO, few of these children present an air threat to the U.S. However, wouldn't it make more sense to fly them to Mexico City (or, wherever) than anywhere in the U.S.? This isn't OMNI, so I won't go on beyond saying that teaching children it is OK to break the law (enter unlawfully) and reap benefits from that act is not the best thing to do. One law, then another, then ....
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George Will: “We have to say to these children, 'Welcome to America. You're going to go to school and get a job and become Americans.’ We have 3,141 counties in this country. That would be 20 per county. The idea that we can't assimilate these 8-year-old criminals with their teddy bears is preposterous.”
Also most of the kids are seeking reunification with their parents or other family members, many of whom are legal residents. Maybe we only have to worry about 5 per county. And really? Quoting breitbart as a responsible source? Weird. |
Originally Posted by Centurion
(Post 23417151)
The entire ID check is guise to protect airline revenue so people do not fly on another ticket that will be worthless for non use or so gain an high elite status. The entire ID check is joke. All that matters is the individuals on the flight do not have weapons or devices to cause harm to others.
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Originally Posted by relangford
(Post 23418257)
I have no problem with illegal aliens boarding flights without ID since the sole purpose of theTSA is to prevent weapons onboard. IMHO, few of these children present an air threat to the U.S. However, wouldn't it make more sense to fly them to Mexico City (or, wherever) than anywhere in the U.S.? This isn't OMNI, so I won't go on beyond saying that teaching children it is OK to break the law (enter unlawfully) and reap benefits from that act is not the best thing to do. One law, then another, then ....
As to the rest, did you find that going over the speed limit when you first got your driver's license was the harbinger of your life of crime? Or did it start earlier, when you crossed a street without using the crosswalk? Did your path to being a crime lord really start when you slandered little Mary Jane Rottencrotch on the playground in the 1st grade when you called her a poopyhead when, in fact, her head had no poop on it at all? |
Originally Posted by catocony
(Post 23421003)
As to the rest, did you find that going over the speed limit when you first got your driver's license was the harbinger of your life of crime? Or did it start earlier, when you crossed a street without using the crosswalk? Did your path to being a crime lord really start when you slandered little Mary Jane Rottencrotch on the playground in the 1st grade when you called her a poopyhead when, in fact, her head had no poop on it at all? |
Going over the speed limit is a little different than entering a country unlawfully. By the way, have you checked to see what the penalty is in Mexico (just as an example, as I know these children are not from Mexico for which there are different rules) for being an "undocumented alien"? It is prison.
It doesn't matter if it is 20 or 5 per county; it is obeying a very serious law. BTW, I sponsored by sister-in-law to emigrate legally to the U.S. in 1973. When her number came up in 1988, she had married and had children, so no wish to move the the U.S. If we had known, she could have flown to Mexico and walked across the border. Were we and she stupid for doing the legal route? I guess it comes from your perspective. Also BTW, my wife was a LEGAL ALIEN, who waited almost a year after we were married to be able to get a LEGAL visa, but we both waited to obey the law. |
Originally Posted by relangford
(Post 23423538)
Going over the speed limit is a little different than entering a country unlawfully. By the way, have you checked to see what the penalty is in Mexico (just as an example, as I know these children are not from Mexico for which there are different rules) for being an "undocumented alien"? It is prison.
It doesn't matter if it is 20 or 5 per county; it is obeying a very serious law. BTW, I sponsored by sister-in-law to emigrate legally to the U.S. in 1973. When her number came up in 1988, she had married and had children, so no wish to move the the U.S. If we had known, she could have flown to Mexico and walked across the border. Were we and she stupid for doing the legal route? I guess it comes from your perspective. Also BTW, my wife was a LEGAL ALIEN, who waited almost a year after we were married to be able to get a LEGAL visa, but we both waited to obey the law. |
if a kid enters the country illegally, they will then go on to break a lot of laws. That's a very silly assumption to make. |
Originally Posted by relangford
(Post 23424536)
Of course, most won't go that route, but some - at least, some - will. It might seem silly to you, but when I lived on the Arizona-Mexico border and regularly saw the"children" with gang tatoos climbing over the fences near my backyard, it seemed that at least some had already decided on what kind of life to follow. IMHO, the answer is: make legal immigration much easier since we need these workers anyway, but keep some standards in place as to health (BTW, my wife had to bring chest x-rays and a doctor's sworn health status statement to first enter the U.S.), any criminal background, etc. And, the biggest problem isn't the children from El Salvador, etc., it is who else is coming in.
Too much opportunity for a doctor to start making $$ off 'clean' xrays and health certificates. Of course, I'm sure you could find a doctor to do the same thing here in the US if you know where to look. |
Originally Posted by relangford
(Post 23418257)
I have no problem with illegal aliens boarding flights without ID since the sole purpose of theTSA is to prevent weapons onboard. IMHO, few of these children present an air threat to the U.S. However, wouldn't it make more sense to fly them to Mexico City (or, wherever) than anywhere in the U.S.? This isn't OMNI, so I won't go on beyond saying that teaching children it is OK to break the law (enter unlawfully) and reap benefits from that act is not the best thing to do. One law, then another, then ....
Wherever you are from, that's something your country's education system should have taught you as a child. |
Originally Posted by relangford
(Post 23423538)
Going over the speed limit is a little different than entering a country unlawfully. By the way, have you checked to see what the penalty is in Mexico (just as an example, as I know these children are not from Mexico for which there are different rules) for being an "undocumented alien"? It is prison.
It doesn't matter if it is 20 or 5 per county; it is obeying a very serious law. BTW, I sponsored by sister-in-law to emigrate legally to the U.S. in 1973. When her number came up in 1988, she had married and had children, so no wish to move the the U.S. If we had known, she could have flown to Mexico and walked across the border. Were we and she stupid for doing the legal route? I guess it comes from your perspective. Also BTW, my wife was a LEGAL ALIEN, who waited almost a year after we were married to be able to get a LEGAL visa, but we both waited to obey the law. |
I am sure there is a difference here. When you fear for your safety, you cannot just *go* to any other country. You have to be at their borders at a legal checkpoint and apply for asylum. While the asylum process is pending, the host country can detain the refugee claimant. The claimants have to prove a credible and documented threat to their life. They cannot say that Mexico is filled with criminals, I might get shot 20 years later so I am here. Same way I cannot say, there have been bombings in various public places in India, I am scared I will be caught in one of them, hence I am applying for asylum.
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