Image from a body scanner used at a jail

Old May 7, 14, 6:50 pm
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Image from a body scanner used at a jail

http://www.ktbs.com/story/25454653/m...band-into-jail

I'm not sure if the body scanner was one produced by Rapiscan or a MMW. I'm guessing the former since I recall reading an article at some point saying that the machines removed from airports were being bought and utilized by prisons, etc.

Observations:

1) The image was obviously captured, stored, and transmitted.

2) The prisoner didn't have to hold his hands up in the air like airplane passengers do.

3) Notice all the bones and organs visible in the image. Wonder how much radiation he was blasted with.
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Old May 7, 14, 9:41 pm
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I recall seeing sample images from BSX scanners in the past in which you could see bones in hands and feet, bit this is insane. This is not even a surface scan, this is a full body medical x-ray, and its unbelievably risky.
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Old May 7, 14, 10:06 pm
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It's simply a matter of time until the authorities admit the truth about these scans.
Meanwhile, yes....



I'm glad I don't fly so often anymore...
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Old May 8, 14, 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by WillCAD View Post
I recall seeing sample images from BSX scanners in the past in which you could see bones in hands and feet, bit this is insane. This is not even a surface scan, this is a full body medical x-ray, and its unbelievably risky.
Yeah, and this guy was scanned twice before they discovered the cell phone.

I wonder if this image would be helpful to Jon Corbett in his court case, or if it's moot at this point because it was produced by a backscatter scanner.
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Old May 8, 14, 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by slh14 View Post
Yeah, and this guy was scanned twice before they discovered the cell phone.

I wonder if this image would be helpful to Jon Corbett in his court case, or if it's moot at this point because it was produced by a backscatter scanner.
Probably not helpful in the air travel context at all. I don't see any backscatter imaging in this case - it's a full penetration x-ray image of the entire body. It's essentially a medical x-ray, being administered by non-medical-professional prison guards.

My level of sympathy for a convicted felon is somewhat less than for an innocent traveler, but even so, until judges start sentencing felons to 5 years of cancer, I cannot laugh off such whole-body x-ray scans being foisted on prisoners as just another consequence of their crime.

This is just wrong, and like so many government actions of the last few years, it is only going to bite the taxpayers in the butt - or, more accurately, their wallets - when some civil liberties attorney gets wind of it and files a huge class-action suit on behalf of every inmate who has ever been scanned by this infernal machine.
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Old May 8, 14, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by WillCAD View Post
I recall seeing sample images from BSX scanners in the past in which you could see bones in hands and feet, bit this is insane. This is not even a surface scan, this is a full body medical x-ray, and its unbelievably risky.
Prison officials looking for drugs on intake. If these x-rays are taken by run-of-the-mill guards, I agree that it's unbelievably risky.

The article did not indicate if incoming prisoners are scanned only on intake or if they are subject to random scanning during their incarceration. I would put money on the random scanning, which would make the procedure even worse.
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Old May 14, 14, 6:52 pm
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are you sure the scanner is an mmw or rapiscan as those formerly used in airports? Prisons have special scanners, such as this one: http://www.bodyorificescanner.com/us/, so this picture may not be relevant.
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Old May 20, 14, 12:35 am
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This article may be relevant here...

Guess where TSA's invasive scanners are now?

http://www.federaltimes.com/article/...-scanners-now-

The controversial airport screening machines that angered privacy advocates and members of Congress for its revealing images are finding new homes in state and local prisons across the country, according to the Transportation Security Administration.

So far, 154 of the machines have been transferred to prisons in states including Iowa, Virginia and Louisiana. Itís a good fit because privacy concerns raised by airport passengers do not apply in many cases to prisoners, according to TSA.
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Old May 20, 14, 3:45 am
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Originally Posted by China Clipper View Post
It's simply a matter of time until the authorities admit the truth about these scans.
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I'm glad I don't fly so often anymore...
This image is not from the machines that TSA used, unless they have completely revamped the system. None of the images I have seen from MMW or BSX are even close to this. This is a much higher level of xray than the older BSX TSA used. So either the machine has been recalibrated/redesigned/completely changed in how it works, or this is a different system that is designed to penetrate the skin and scan internally as well. I am not tech savvy enough to know all the steps that would be required to change over one of the older BSX systems in order to achieve this level of scanning, but it is a few orders higher on the chain of power used and imagery presented.
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Old May 20, 14, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by slh14 View Post
Yeah, and this guy was scanned twice before they discovered the cell phone.

I wonder if this image would be helpful to Jon Corbett in his court case, or if it's moot at this point because it was produced by a backscatter scanner.
I'll agree with that this is under the preview of the Department of Corrections, in which the privacy/health rules are much different than DHS/TSA. Doesn't make it right, yet it's much more of an uphill battle, over there.
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Old May 20, 14, 6:04 pm
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Originally Posted by sbagdon View Post
I'll agree with that this is under the preview of the Department of Corrections, in which the privacy/health rules are much different than DHS/TSA. Doesn't make it right, yet it's much more of an uphill battle, over there.
I'd suppose for the prisoners, such a scanner is likely to be the least of their problems. And if it replaces the humiliating visual and physical strip searches that often serve as a means to taunt and debase inmates, it might actually be an improvement for the inmates.

However, it was simply inconscionable for the TSA to have deployed such devices, of similar effect albeit less powerful, upon an innocent public.
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Old May 23, 14, 8:40 am
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Originally Posted by Smaug View Post
This article may be relevant here...

Guess where TSA's invasive scanners are now?

http://www.federaltimes.com/article/...-scanners-now-
I honestly can't believe the government has the nerve to link screening of flyers to screening of prison inmates so obviously. I mean, it only supports the TSA critics who've been saying for years that nude-o-scopes and full-body gropes are not appropriate things to inflict en masse on innocent travelers.
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Old May 27, 14, 2:10 am
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I seem to recall that South African diamond miners were (are ??) x-rayed every day upon departing the mine. Wonder how many got cancer?
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Old May 27, 14, 8:22 pm
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Originally Posted by relangford View Post
I seem to recall that South African diamond miners were (are ??) x-rayed every day upon departing the mine. Wonder how many got cancer?
Probably a lot less than the number killed or damaged by asbestos
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Old May 31, 14, 9:58 pm
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That's a full-body X-ray scanner, not related to the ones used at airports for security, though some airports have them for customs. Now, they're very low risk, because the actual radiation dose isn't much higher than a backscatter scan - the resolution of the image is ultra-low so they don't need to use nearly as much energy.
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