I am concerned with his attempts to find the bad guy by searching and threatening other passengers in-flight.
Or, for example, are they allowed to tell passengers to do some weird things, like sitting quietly with their hands visible to listen for the phone to ring etc?
When did they do in-flight searches in reality?
Are they allowed to do the same things to the crew?
I thought they should be limited with the captain authority more, than with their usual law enforcement powers...

You do understand it was a fictional movie?

Can you think of any Hollywood cop film that bears any resemblance to real life?

The mundane life of a FAM doesn't make for a good screenplay.

Anyway, AFAIK, there are no FAMs posting on FT. If they're lurking, they probably won't answer your questions. It's probably some SSI thing.

There are several cop forums out there, you should try posting there. Or, post your questions at blog.tsa.gov. Probably won't get an answer from them either, but you never know.....

Your line of questioning is kind of giving me the creeps! Why so curious?

Movies like Blade or The Matrix must have you really upset then, yes?

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Originally Posted by Kitdun2000 View Post
I am concerned with his attempts to find the bad guy by searching and threatening other passengers in-flight.
Or, for example, are they allowed to tell passengers to do some weird things, like sitting quietly with their hands visible to listen for the phone to ring etc?
When did they do in-flight searches in reality?
Are they allowed to do the same things to the crew?
I thought they should be limited with the captain authority more, than with their usual law enforcement powers...
Your line of questioning is kind of giving me the creeps! Why so curious?


Exactly, in addition to the fact that he posted in about 3 forums on the
same day, needing an immediate answer about a stupid movie. Weird.

Even though (most...nearly all:p) movies are all fiction, it is sometimes interesting to look for flaws in the plot--that movie has lots of them.:D
I was more concerned with his ability to thwart the smoke detectors in the toilet--if what he did would work, it might give other pax "bad" ideas.:td:

Don't they have a very particular set of skills, skills acquired over a long career?
Skills that make them a nightmare for people like you?

That's from a different movie. TAKEN.:D

At least his skill set was transferrable.;)

a few possibilities:

1) trying to get post count up.
2) takes movies way too seriously.
3) Hoping to be first to point out the most inconsistencies between movie and real life
4) future terrorist in the making

5) Future TSA clerk hoping it's gonna be as real as in the movies.

Listen if you are an air marshall or flip burgers at McDonalds and someone is trying to down a flight you are on I fully expect a valiant effort to stop that person even if it includes questioning, searching and yes shooting the dope.
I believe no permisión is needed by anybody to save their on neck

Sky marshals are federal law enforcement agents with arrest power nationwide, just like FBI or DEA agents.

However, they are trained to intervene only in extreme situations. They let airline staff handle all incidents and intervene only when it is clear that the incident is beyond the staff's ability to respond. They will usually not even respond if someone commits a crime on the plane, unless the safety of other passengers is threatened and flight attendants are unable to control the situation. Rather, they will allow the airline staff to call local police to meet the plane upon landing and make an arrest.

I am a really curious person. All that is just for my information, as I am greatly interested in all things, related to aviation and flying.
I understand there are movies that are completely unrealistic, and movies, that are fictional, but could possibly be real. I do understand that this is just a fictional movie, and this is what I am trying to get, what would the difference be, if this happened in reality?
Of course, they can engage hijackers, if they have no other choice.
Do they have a real arrest power in flight, or they can just handcuff or otherwise neutralize the bad guy and do the legal stuff upon landing? I understand, there is no real difference, again, just for my information.
Do they have a legal power to search anybody in flight?
And did they ever have to do so for some reason?
I am asking because ICAO documents and international legal agreements describe procedures for the crews to search their aircraft, if needed, but they always require to land, in order to search passengers.
What will they do if some person, either known or unknown commits a crime, and it does threat other passengers?
Thank You

They can search anyone like any other LEO could. The legality of that search will be determined later in a court of law. If they start rummaging through everyone's bag in the overhead looking for drugs and find some, they could arrest the person and have them charged with a crime. Chances are it will get thrown out as an illegal search unless they had probable cause for the search in the first place. It would be 100% against their mission though, so they would probably lose their job for breaking cover for something that was not a threat to the aircraft.

Now if someone jumps up and says they have a bomb or are hijacking the plane, they would have probable cause to stop with force if necessary, arrest and search that person.