TSA disarms sock monkey. Flying public safe again
Dec 10, 2013, 8:47 am
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Why would <deleted. have any ability to answer this question? I seriously doubt he has access to the chain of command to know what disciplinary action (if any) is taken against another TSO --- much less have the ability to repeat that information in a public forum. (Look at how many times the official TSA representatives fail to answer questions about personnel actions --- and those are the folks who actually know what's going on.)
I'm a little disturbed by how much this thread has become about <deleted> and his responses (or lack thereof) regarding this incident. Shouldn't this thread be about the sock monkey?
[Four pages in, and nobody's made the obvious joke about sock puppets ... sheesh ...]
I'm a little disturbed by how much this thread has become about <deleted> and his responses (or lack thereof) regarding this incident. Shouldn't this thread be about the sock monkey?
[Four pages in, and nobody's made the obvious joke about sock puppets ... sheesh ...]
If <deleted> was a TSA sock puppet (jury is still out) then I think we would get some answers, just not honest ones.
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Dec 10, 2013, 8:47 am
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Need we mention the urine incident(s) again?
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Dec 10, 2013, 8:50 am
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Note that this observation doesn't apply to <deleted>. His failure to respond is pretty clear.
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Dec 10, 2013, 8:55 am
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You're right, of course, but it would be great if once in a while <deleted> (or any other TWO) could point out that Bob is addressing the matter or SSI directives are being updated and all personnel 'educated' so this doesn't happen again.
Unfortunately, I Bet if I went through the same checkpoint with the same item tomorrow while the same screener was working, I'd get the same result.
Unfortunately, I Bet if I went through the same checkpoint with the same item tomorrow while the same screener was working, I'd get the same result.
Never expect honesty or compliance with the Constitution by anyone associated with TSA.
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Dec 10, 2013, 9:06 am
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I do not know of any kind of address being done at this time, remember, I am a frontliner, not an HQ guru.
Why would <deleted> have any ability to answer this question? I seriously doubt he has access to the chain of command to know what disciplinary action (if any) is taken against another TSO --- much less have the ability to repeat that information in a public forum. (Look at how many times the official TSA representatives fail to answer questions about personnel actions --- and those are the folks who actually know what's going on.)
I'm a little disturbed by how much this thread has become about <deleted> and his responses (or lack thereof) regarding this incident. Shouldn't this thread be about the sock monkey?
[Four pages in, and nobody's made the obvious joke about sock puppets ... sheesh ...]
I'm a little disturbed by how much this thread has become about <deleted> and his responses (or lack thereof) regarding this incident. Shouldn't this thread be about the sock monkey?
[Four pages in, and nobody's made the obvious joke about sock puppets ... sheesh ...]
I am not certain that most of those sock monkey jokes would make it past the moderators here!
You're right, of course, but it would be great if once in a while <deleted> (or any other TWO) could point out that Bob is addressing the matter or SSI directives are being updated and all personnel 'educated' so this doesn't happen again.
Unfortunately, I Bet if I went through the same checkpoint with the same item tomorrow while the same screener was working, I'd get the same result.
Unfortunately, I Bet if I went through the same checkpoint with the same item tomorrow while the same screener was working, I'd get the same result.
Sadly, you may be right.
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Dec 10, 2013, 9:11 am
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Dec 10, 2013, 9:17 am
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I think you may just have hit on why people treat <deleted> as the TSAs whipping boy.
For everything he's ever said about how things are supposed to be, they never seem to go that direction...
For everything he's ever said about how things are supposed to be, they never seem to go that direction...
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Dec 10, 2013, 9:51 am
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We're not talking about a shirt on a sock monkey. We're talking about the TSA's use of their own mysterious "SSI" rules to steal, er, ah, confiscate, uh, hmmm, "appropriate" items for their own use.
The comment was about a shirt with a logo on it that the TSA would then confiscate because it had a "realistic representation of a fictional weapon" on it, i.e., a two-inch lightsaber logo.
The comment was about a shirt with a logo on it that the TSA would then confiscate because it had a "realistic representation of a fictional weapon" on it, i.e., a two-inch lightsaber logo.
Dec 10, 2013, 10:09 am
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At the same time, keep in mind that I have very limited information I can give out here - 99% of the time I am informed of things at the same time you folks are. I am not going to disclose SSI, but I am going to continue to comment on how I think that a passenger should not have had a hard time taking the item that is the subject of this thread, through a checkpoint.
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Dec 10, 2013, 10:13 am
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And "SSI" is nonsense. Utter nonsense. Pure "what makes the roses bloom" nonsense. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. "SSI" is merely an excuse for thieves, thugs, and morons to make up "policy" out of whole cloth and maintain plausible deniability.
Filing complaints about the TSA with the TSA is like micturating in a vector contrary to the prevailing meteorological conditions.
Dec 10, 2013, 10:21 am
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If true, that explains much about why the TSA "employees" at the checkpoint are at least as confused as the traveling public.
And "SSI" is nonsense. Utter nonsense. Pure "what makes the roses bloom" nonsense. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. "SSI" is merely an excuse for thieves, thugs, and morons to make up "policy" out of whole cloth and maintain plausible deniability.
Filing complaints about the TSA with the TSA is like micturating in a vector contrary to the prevailing meteorological conditions.
And "SSI" is nonsense. Utter nonsense. Pure "what makes the roses bloom" nonsense. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. "SSI" is merely an excuse for thieves, thugs, and morons to make up "policy" out of whole cloth and maintain plausible deniability.
Filing complaints about the TSA with the TSA is like micturating in a vector contrary to the prevailing meteorological conditions.
Dec 10, 2013, 10:24 am
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It's equally obvious to anyone observing the employees "working" on those "operations."
Dec 10, 2013, 10:34 am
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Then why pick on <deleted>? He's been more forthright and participatory here than a number of his colleagues ... I'd think we'd want to encourage his sort of behavior rather than ask him unanswerable questions and then blame him for refusing to defend the indefensible ..
Precisely. I seriously doubt the issue here is with documents or policies, but with how they play out at the checkpoint. Talk is cheap; what we need is observed changes in behavior.
Precisely. I seriously doubt the issue here is with documents or policies, but with how they play out at the checkpoint. Talk is cheap; what we need is observed changes in behavior.
For the record I don't think a claim that I picked on <deleted> in this thread can be made.
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Dec 10, 2013, 11:31 am
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If true, that explains much about why the TSA "employees" at the checkpoint are at least as confused as the traveling public.
And "SSI" is nonsense. Utter nonsense. Pure "what makes the roses bloom" nonsense. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. "SSI" is merely an excuse for thieves, thugs, and morons to make up "policy" out of whole cloth and maintain plausible deniability.
Filing complaints about the TSA with the TSA is like micturating in a vector contrary to the prevailing meteorological conditions.
And "SSI" is nonsense. Utter nonsense. Pure "what makes the roses bloom" nonsense. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. "SSI" is merely an excuse for thieves, thugs, and morons to make up "policy" out of whole cloth and maintain plausible deniability.
Filing complaints about the TSA with the TSA is like micturating in a vector contrary to the prevailing meteorological conditions.
