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Old Dec 6, 2013, 8:18 am
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Budget battle - TSA fees may increase

I am reading that both sides of the aisle support and oppose the idea to double the fee. The Senate passed a version last session.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...nes-to-lobby-2

I'll be making some calls to my congress critters and a few others to oppose any fees.
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Old Dec 6, 2013, 9:56 am
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TSA should be terminated. No one should be forced to pay to interact with federal "security" employees at all, let alone pay more. It should be completely up to the airlines and airports.
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Old Dec 6, 2013, 10:26 am
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If TSA would just cut out their deadwood there would be no TSA or TSA budget.
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Old Dec 6, 2013, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by Spiff
TSA should be terminated. No one should be forced to pay to interact with federal "security" employees at all, let alone pay more. It should be completely up to the airlines and airports.
Why not? Surely federal security employees and security employees operating under federal rules (maybe I'm wrong but I can't see how delegating security to individual airlines and airports could possibly be workable - particularly on international flights) are much of a muchness anyway. It's going to be the same people manning the security lines, just with a different logo on their uniform.
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Old Dec 6, 2013, 11:28 am
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It's going to be the same people manning the security lines, just with a different logo on their uniform.
That's the problem, right there, and is the main reason the TSA needs to be abolished in toto.
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Old Dec 6, 2013, 12:17 pm
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Sen. Dems Vote To Double Walk-Through-The-Airport Tax (2012)

House Raises Walk-Through-The-Airport Tax To $7 (2008)

How to fight traveler taxes? (2004)
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Old Dec 6, 2013, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by callum9999
Why not? Surely federal security employees and security employees operating under federal rules (maybe I'm wrong but I can't see how delegating security to individual airlines and airports could possibly be workable - particularly on international flights) are much of a muchness anyway. It's going to be the same people manning the security lines, just with a different logo on their uniform.
What you describe as unworkable is precisely how things operated pre- 9/11 isn't it?
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Old Dec 6, 2013, 3:50 pm
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I am with the airlines on this one. No to tax increases. Airports are essential not only to PAX but also to logistics and should be publicly funded.
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Old Dec 6, 2013, 4:10 pm
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I am with the airlines on this one. No to tax increases. Airports are essential not only to PAX but also to logistics and should be publicly funded.
Let the flying public pay for the costs in proportion to their flying.

I think the entire TSA budget (ok, the part spent for aviation security) should come from use taxes.

But I don't think the "tax" should be included when buying a ticket.

Make passengers pay it separately. Pay it when they show their ID; buy a coupon book of TSA checkpoint-passing stamps... something.

When the public realizes they pay $5 for the privilege if taking off their shoes when they fly the public will get more interested in this and put pressure on their leaders.
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Old Dec 6, 2013, 4:14 pm
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When the public realizes they pay $5 for the privilege if taking off their shoes when they fly the public will get more interested in this and put pressure on their leaders.
- Public should be asked to pay the fee in cash when going through TSA security. This will bring more attention to the issue.
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Old Dec 6, 2013, 4:15 pm
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I am with the airlines on this one. No to tax increases. Airports are essential not only to PAX but also to logistics and should be publicly funded.

Publicly funded by users of airports, not general tax revenues.
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Old Dec 6, 2013, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by AArlington
Let the flying public pay for the costs in proportion to their flying.

I think the entire TSA budget (ok, the part spent for aviation security) should come from use taxes.

But I don't think the "tax" should be included when buying a ticket.

Make passengers pay it separately. Pay it when they show their ID; buy a coupon book of TSA checkpoint-passing stamps... something.

When the public realizes they pay $5 for the privilege if taking off their shoes when they fly the public will get more interested in this and put pressure on their leaders.
Hell no.
Have you seen what happens in MNL where this system is in place?
Queue to pay tax, then queue to exit the Phillipines, then queue for security....
Look at HKG-arguably one of the best airports in the world, and connecting PAX do not need to pay taxes even though they use immigration/security services.
Even so, I believe that I contribute more than it costs to screen/pass me through HKG. (though flying out of there often may have something to do with it...)
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Old Dec 6, 2013, 9:21 pm
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Originally Posted by AA_EXP09
Hell no.
Have you seen what happens in MNL where this system is in place?
Queue to pay tax, then queue to exit the Phillipines, then queue for security....
Look at HKG-arguably one of the best airports in the world, and connecting PAX do not need to pay taxes even though they use immigration/security services.
Even so, I believe that I contribute more than it costs to screen/pass me through HKG. (though flying out of there often may have something to do with it...)
I got the idea in Thailand and a SA country.

Yes it is inconvenient.

Maybe PAX could buy a punch card to speed things up.

Point is -- it needs to be a separate, noticeable transaction to the passenger.

Family of 4 leaving to go to Disney -- $20 there; $20 return. That's what they pay now --- they just don't realize it.
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Old Dec 7, 2013, 12:06 am
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Anybody remember when airlines used to provide security themselves?

Isn't TSA there in part to shield airlines from liability in the event of something similar to 9/11 again?
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Old Dec 7, 2013, 3:58 am
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Originally Posted by Spiff
TSA should be terminated. No one should be forced to pay to interact with federal "security" employees at all, let alone pay more. It should be completely up to the airlines and airports.
If I had a nickel for every time you've made that suggestion on this forum, I'd be rich!
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