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Losing Patience with TSA
An interesting article this morning that I'd hope would lead to some sanity in Congress:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...nduct/2783055/ |
Originally Posted by KDS
(Post 21412808)
sanity in Congress
Sorry, but I'm unimpressed by the article. "One last chance to improve" only works if there's clearly defined criteria for improvement ... and the article fails to provide that. Even the one solution mentioned --- privatization --- won't do a whole lot, because private screeners would still have to use WBI and perform full-body patdowns and enforce the 100ml fluid rule and so on. |
Originally Posted by jkhuggins
(Post 21413261)
Well, there's your first problem :)
Sorry, but I'm unimpressed by the article. "One last chance to improve" only works if there's clearly defined criteria for improvement ... and the article fails to provide that. Even the one solution mentioned --- privatization --- won't do a whole lot, because private screeners would still have to use WBI and perform full-body patdowns and enforce the 100ml fluid rule and so on. The TSA is still developing a final rule, required by a U.S. Court of Appeals, on the use of its controversial full-body scanners. According to a survey of public comments on a government regulations website, most Americans favor a return to the tried-and-true magnetometers and want the TSA to stop using pat-downs and full-body scanners. Bowing to their wishes would be a good start. Although I don't expect TSA or Congress or President to actually accept and implement this suggestion, it would be a good thing if they did. |
Originally Posted by KDS
(Post 21413319)
Understanding that it's just an article, there was one suggestion that I liked:
The TSA is still developing a final rule, required by a U.S. Court of Appeals, on the use of its controversial full-body scanners. According to a survey of public comments on a government regulations website, most Americans favor a return to the tried-and-true magnetometers and want the TSA to stop using pat-downs and full-body scanners. Bowing to their wishes would be a good start. Although I don't expect TSA or Congress or President to actually accept and implement this suggestion, it would be a good thing if they did.See, TSA would counter that it is, in fact, returning to WTMD-only screening --- through the Pre-Check program. Of course, the fact that Pre-Check is only open to elites or those willing to pay for it through Global Entry is lost in that argument. |
Originally Posted by jkhuggins
(Post 21416721)
But what does "a good start" mean?
See, TSA would counter that it is, in fact, returning to WTMD-only screening --- through the Pre-Check program. Of course, the fact that Pre-Check is only open to elites or those willing to pay for it through Global Entry is lost in that argument. |
Originally Posted by MIT_SBM
(Post 21416758)
Don't worry, Pre-Check will become all but required along with the associated fees. Slowly but surely the program will be expanded to cover all US airports. Subsequent to that there will be changes that will make not participating in Pre-Check [or whatever they decide to call it] the choice of last resort.
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Originally Posted by DeafBlonde
(Post 21417105)
Bolding Mine: Knowing this present administration, not participating in Pre-Check might eventually garder a fine...er...penalty...er...tax. Yea, that's it, a tax!:rolleyes:
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We need to bring back Senator McCarthy--we have some real Unamerican activities for him to go after!
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Originally Posted by MIT_SBM
(Post 21416758)
Don't worry, Pre-Check will become all but required along with the associated fees. Slowly but surely the program will be expanded to cover all US airports. Subsequent to that there will be changes that will make not participating in Pre-Check [or whatever they decide to call it] the choice of last resort.
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Originally Posted by MIT_SBM
(Post 21417348)
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl
(Post 21418208)
Except for those who are not US citizens and/or residents. There's no sign of opening Pre-Check to "foreigners". And no reason, really, why a non-US citizen going on a single vacation or business trip to the US should want to (or have to) pay fees for Pre-Check for one trip.
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But today, just a few days before the 9/11 anniversary, is not the time to talk about the end of the TSA. This is the moment to take account of the failings of one of America's least-loved agencies, and to say: Our patience has its limits; it's almost up. Mike |
So the choices will be: NOS, patdown or a background check without consent.
And all that is just because a person has decided to move somewhere on a plane? I really do not see how the new system is better. If anything, it is actually worse. I'd rather receive a patdown then have those people to get background check on me every time I travel. |
The article was written by Chris Elliott, so what do you expect?
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Originally Posted by rwmiller56
(Post 21426422)
The article was written by Chris Elliott, so what do you expect?
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