Ok...deep breaths... calm down.... haha. Now, just curious. How do you consider flying to be right and not a privilege?

Certainly dismissive of the protective paternal instinct. :(

Let me put it another way, that is more what I meant:

I will not be forced to "ask politely" about doing something that is within my rights under the threat of being retaliated against if I do not.

Well, for one, we can start with Federal law : 49 U.S.C. § 40103

"A citizen of the United States has a public right of transit through the navigable airspace."

Seems pretty clear.

Being polite has nothing to do with exercising what one sees as one's rights. This thread has all the makings of an incident which was incited. Pity the kid.

Pity the idiot TSO with nothing better to do that to deliberately retaliate against a parent by using his/her position of authority to handle an innocent kid.

What a dude. Wow. BIG man, that TSO. If he likes you , 'bim bam bang', but if he doesn't...whoa, dude, you're gonna pay.

And while he's distracted doing that, who knows what might be slipping through. :rolleyes:

Acting in a professional manner under color of authority has everything to do with not being incitable. Using a 16y/o to retaliate against a parent is about as unprofessional as it gets.

A true professional would never let it become an incident.

U.S. Supreme Court
Kent v. Dulles, 357 U.S. 116 (1958)
No. 481
Argued April 10, 1958
Decided June 16, 1958
357 U.S. 116

Travel is a right. Flying is a means of travel. The contract for the airline ticket is between a business and an individual.

Government cannot deprive a person of their rights without due process.

All TSA is allowed to do is to screen a traveler for WEI. That's it. Anything else being done is outside of the mandate that created TSA.

I don't know why TSA is falsely teaching that travel is not a right, perhaps you can tell us.

I understand travel is a right. And I understand the right to travel through "navigable airspace". But I am referring to flying a commercial carrier. I don't think that is a protected right. Is it? Please correct me if I am wrong.

Again, the airline ticket is a contract between the passenger and the airline. Government has no part in that contract except for screening the passenger for WEI.

Government cannot deprive a person of rights without due process so for TSA to prohibit a person from traveling is a civil rights violation unless due process is given.

That is why TSA calls for LEO's when weapons are found. The LEO can arrest the person but TSA screeners cannot.

Traveling as a passenger in a plane is absolutely a right, just as traveling as a passenger in a car is a right.

An airline can refuse service to anyone, just as any business could. But the federal government can't restrict your right to fly any more than they can restrict your right to ride in a car.

Regarding the patdowns, check out the comments posted about TSA's use of naked body scanners at regulations.gov. The scanners are well beyond uncomfortable in many peoples' view.

DCA TSO misconduct with my 16yo
 

Please upload your video to YouTube and tell us how to find it. The part about the clerk retaliating, along with his statement, needs to go viral.

Unfortunately (as I stated in the OP), he waited until I stopped recording to say what he said to my son.

I personally find it ironic that some of the most vocal opponents of the TSA were also very vocal about the LACK of security after 9/11. Just a thought...either we have security or we don't.