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APHPAPHP May 8, 2013 12:58 pm

Three Passengers Removed From Flight....
 
Anyone got any details on the three passengers that were escorted off a flight in Charleston, SC for mis-behaving-----then arrested?

ediemac1 May 8, 2013 1:13 pm

Google is your friend....
 
http://www.counton2.com/story/22191069/3-d

http://www.abcnews4.com/story/221900...etained-by-fbi

http://www.live5news.com/story/22190025/three-passeng

http://www.postandcourier.com/articl...engers-removed

Yoshi212 May 8, 2013 1:35 pm

This stinks of power tripping. Either Flight Attendant or Passenger and I'm getting the sense it was the FA. Diverting a flight is a rather serious matter with financial consequences to the airport authority and airline. I'd love to hear how the passenger actually refused.

PTravel May 8, 2013 1:50 pm

My money is on, "Flying While Muslim" or "Flying While Looking Muslim."

gobluetwo May 8, 2013 1:50 pm

Don't worry about it, it was all just a big misunderstanding. :rolleyes:

Wally Bird May 8, 2013 2:06 pm


misunderstanding between a flight attendant and a passenger over where to put a piece of luggage
Where the sun don't shine?

Seriously, presumably the bags were correctly stowed for take-off so what's the problem with getting them down in mid-air? Definitely something "else" involved here.

goalie May 8, 2013 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by PTravel (Post 20718902)
My money is on, "Flying While Muslim" or "Flying While Looking Muslim."

Or at a bare minimum, FWB ;)

GUWonder May 8, 2013 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 20719332)
Or at a bare minimum, FWB ;)

Whether or not this incident was another FWB incident, FWB covers "flying while looking muslim" because most of the paranoia about "brown" passengers involves paranoia about muslims and a mistaken assumption that most/all muslims are "brown".

Snidely Whiplash May 8, 2013 8:16 pm

Incredible how some of the commentators on this thread "know" what happened on this flight, and are even making this a Muslim issue. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Not one of the stories gives sufficient detail for us to know what really happened! But not one of the stories suggest a Muslim connection.

I doubt that any FA or pilot made the decision to divert lightly. But we simply don't know what really happened.

BTW most Muslims ARE non-white. If you want to create a limited definition of "brown", then fine. But when you combine Indonesian. Pakistani, and Arab Muslims and compare their numbers to Muslims who do not have dark skin, they FAR outnumber them. But that has no relevance to this thread.

GUWonder: do not try to morph this isolated WN incident into a racist issue or into an issue of religious prejudice. Without more facts, how can anyone make this into a racial or religious issue? From what we know, this has nothing to do with race or religion, but only with failure to follow the instructions of a FA.

Anyone who, based on the facts we have, wants to make this into a racial or religious issue, can themselves legitimately be suspected of prejudice.

GUWonder May 8, 2013 9:01 pm


Originally Posted by Snidely Whiplash (Post 20720659)

GUWonder: do not try to morph this isolated WN incident into a racist issue or into an issue of religious prejudice. Without more facts, how can anyone make this into a racial or religious issue? From what we know, this has nothing to do with race or religion, but only with failure to follow the instructions of a FA.

Anyone who, based on the facts we have, wants to make this into a racial or religious issue, can themselves legitimately be suspected of prejudice.

There was no attempt by me to morph this into anything.

Did you not read when I wrote: "Whether or not this incident was another FWB incident, FWB covers 'flying while looking muslim' because most of the paranoia about 'brown' passengers involves paranoia about muslims and a mistaken assumption that most/all muslims are 'brown'"? The fact is as I stated, whether or not this incident was another FWB incident.

cbn42 May 8, 2013 10:46 pm

The articles do not give enough details to figure out what happened, but my feeling is that airlines are getting far too divert-happy these days. There have been a couple of incidents recently where flights have been diverted for trivial reasons like a dispute over kids watching movies on overhead monitors. Federal law gives cabin crew a lot of power, and they are starting to abuse it.

GUWonder May 8, 2013 10:59 pm


Originally Posted by cbn42 (Post 20721243)
The articles do not give enough details to figure out what happened, but my feeling is that airlines are getting far too divert-happy these days. There have been a couple of incidents recently where flights have been diverted for trivial reasons like a dispute over kids watching movies on overhead monitors. Federal law gives cabin crew a lot of power, and they are starting to abuse it.

That's a long start given that such power has been abused for more than 11 years.

CanOnlyTakeSoMuch May 9, 2013 7:51 am

It's not Muslim related and its not power trip issues... Diversions are serious and well FAs don't get paid extra to take a passenger off actually the door is open so FAs don't get paid at all!! Trust me I'm sure the flight attendants am pilots would have rather let him have his bag and made it to Providence so they can get to their hotel and sleep. I'm sure it was last leg since it was after 10pm. So it had to be something more serious and you think and 99% alcohol related.... ESPECIALLY A SWA FA ... They get the worst passengers on a low cost carrier. They prob want nothing more but to be off that plane and in their hotel room sleeping.

CanOnlyTakeSoMuch May 9, 2013 8:00 am


Originally Posted by cbn42 (Post 20721243)
The articles do not give enough details to figure out what happened, but my feeling is that airlines are getting far too divert-happy these days. There have been a couple of incidents recently where flights have been diverted for trivial reasons like a dispute over kids watching movies on overhead monitors. Federal law gives cabin crew a lot of power, and they are starting to abuse it.

You wouldn't know half of the abuse FAs go through on a daily basis. But FAs have power because it protects the airline and all rules FAs enforce are not their personal rules the FAA enforces it... And even fines the FA if she doesn't and you get your certificate that they worked trained and studied extremely hard for pulled from them aka you are fired and it can happen on the spot. Most of the time FAs are reasonable with passengers first and make deals and Then it's the passenger that brings things out of hands and raises voices. That's the case 99% of the time.

CanOnlyTakeSoMuch May 9, 2013 8:03 am

And as a FYI the Captain makes the final decision on things it's the the FA who gets blamed if he decides to divert or have the passenger escorted off and arrested... ALL CAPTAIN DECISIONS


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