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Originally Posted by InkUnderNails
(Post 20514582)
I watched the whole thing and the longer I watched, the angrier I got. I was ready to scream. There is so much on which to comment, if I start I will not finish. Ugh! :mad::mad::mad::mad:
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Originally Posted by SeriouslyLost
(Post 20519595)
You know it's bad when we both agree on something.... :eek: If ever there was something ACLU should be getting their teeth into, it's this one.
The ultimate client with the ACLU is always the Bill of Rights, so the kind of plaintiffs we got when I was working there usually had broader goals. Further, the boards of each chapter decide what kind of cases the ACLU will take, and those are people from your community, so the priorities of each ACLU chapter reflects the concerns of the community, which might not necessarily be the TSA. You can imagine there's a lot of people with a lot of grievances and so usually you see the ACLU will go after the issues that are of most concern to the local community and will do the most good for the most people in preserving people's rights. There's no end to the work, and the resources are extremely limited. It's not like Uncle Sam gives us a stipend so we can keep him honest. |
Originally Posted by exbayern
(Post 20516612)
Passenger is speaking in calm, moderated tones.
Manager says 'can you calm down here'. This is common tactic in my experience; I become even more calm, quiet, and exacting in my speech when stressed, yet I am often told to 'calm down' when I try and point out something (such as when I explain that I am medically unable to use the MMW, but am told that I am 'opting out') Using that phrase makes it sound as if the passenger is behaving inappropriately, which isn't the case. I see the thread title says "ADA," but would a lot of the concerns here be covered in the Air Carrier Access Act? |
Originally Posted by Ysitincoach
(Post 20538383)
I see the thread title says "ADA," but would a lot of the concerns here be covered in the Air Carrier Access Act?
IANAL, but I thought that the Air Carrier Access Act only applies to the airlines and their contractors. The Act does cover security screening but it appears (from my reading) that this refers only to airline-provided screening, which is no longer applicable in the post-9/11 world. Would be curious to read what the FT legal experts have to say. |
Originally Posted by Ysitincoach
(Post 20538383)
I love throwing them for a loop by being the first to use the "please calm down sir/ma'am" routine because really, "there's no need for you to get worked up about this, kindly calm down please."
I see the thread title says "ADA," but would a lot of the concerns here be covered in the Air Carrier Access Act? 14 CFR Part 382 Nondiscrimination on the Basis of Disability in Air Travel http://airconsumer.dot.gov/rules/382short.pdf |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 20540773)
Is this the same act as you mention?
14 CFR Part 382 Nondiscrimination on the Basis of Disability in Air Travel http://airconsumer.dot.gov/rules/382short.pdf |
FYI: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/pract...it-vs-tsa.html
This round is purely about FOIA & Privacy Act, but it's a prelude to the next round which'll be under §1983/Bivens, ADA / Rehabilitation Act, 1st & 4th Amendment, etc. I don't have a cause of action against the TSA under the ACAA; as mentioned above, the ACAA (a) is about airlines, and (b) doesn't provide for any civil liability to the individual (only to the government). |
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