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lobster7 Oct 18, 2012 5:22 pm

Oops, Keystone Cop forgets firearm in DIA bathroom
 
A businessman traveling through DIA was startled Thursday morning when he found a handgun in a men's bathroom stall at the airport.


Denver police took possession of the gun, said John White, a department spokesman.

"We confirmed who owned the weapon and released it to the appropriate agency," White said.

White said there was no criminal element in the incident and no criminal charges would be pursued. He declined to identify the owner of the gun, or who the gun owner works for or represents.

TSA also declined to identify the gun owner.





http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...n-dia-restroom

txrus Oct 18, 2012 5:32 pm

Denver...could it be Alvin Crabtree again??

N830MH Oct 18, 2012 10:21 pm


Originally Posted by txrus (Post 19522563)
Denver...could it be Alvin Crabtree again??

No, not him. It was someone else who left the gun at airport bathroom. That's big mistake! Don't leave the gun behind. Lucky for him! He won't get a press charges. He have be more responsibility to kept the gun along with them.

mahohmei Oct 19, 2012 8:08 am

I've said it before: If I ever found an abandoned gun (or knife) in the "sterile" area (airside or on the plane), I would discretely wrap it up in a barf bag or paper and throw it out in a trash can, never to be seen again. In the bathroom, it's a pretty short trip from the toilet stall to the trash can, and it's unlikely a TSA clerk will be in there and decide to search you.

What would I _not_ do? Turn the weapon in and have to deal with a terminal dump, terminal lockdown, and/or having to take Greyhound home.

Another alternative is to simply ignore the weapon. Of course, this opens the possibility of someone else finding it, reporting it, and resulting in a dump/lockdown.

Of course, there is a risk to this: if TSA clerks decide to start deplaning passengers on your flight and you found the weapon on the plane...

InkUnderNails Oct 19, 2012 8:42 am


Originally Posted by mahohmei (Post 19525489)
I've said it before: If I ever found an abandoned gun (or knife) in the "sterile" area (airside or on the plane), I would discretely wrap it up in a barf bag or paper and throw it out in a trash can, never to be seen again. In the bathroom, it's a pretty short trip from the toilet stall to the trash can, and it's unlikely a TSA clerk will be in there and decide to search you.

What would I _not_ do? Turn the weapon in and have to deal with a terminal dump, terminal lockdown, and/or having to take Greyhound home.

Another alternative is to simply ignore the weapon. Of course, this opens the possibility of someone else finding it, reporting it, and resulting in a dump/lockdown.

Of course, there is a risk to this: if TSA clerks decide to start deplaning passengers on your flight and you found the weapon on the plane...

Well, if I was on my way to the gate to leave, yes, the garbage is a good option, except for the possibility that a janitor will find it and there is a terminal dump anyway.

If I have just landed and headed out, well, it depends on the make and caliber. I prefer 40S&W but any larger caliber would be OK.

mahohmei Oct 19, 2012 8:47 am


Originally Posted by InkUnderNails (Post 19525672)
If I have just landed and headed out, well, it depends on the make and caliber. I prefer 40S&W but any larger caliber would be OK.

:D

Completely forgot about the part where you get to just keep it if you want it.

N830MH Oct 19, 2012 5:08 pm


Originally Posted by mahohmei (Post 19525698)
:D

Completely forgot about the part where you get to just keep it if you want it.

Yeah, they can't be leave behind. Don't leave the gun at the bathroom. They have be more responsibilities.

cbn42 Oct 19, 2012 6:00 pm


Originally Posted by mahohmei (Post 19525489)
I've said it before: If I ever found an abandoned gun (or knife) in the "sterile" area (airside or on the plane), I would discretely wrap it up in a barf bag or paper and throw it out in a trash can, never to be seen again.

That could be rather dangerous. A janitor might find it, because a gun would be rather heavy compared to the paper towels and wrappers that bathroom trashcans are usually filled with. If its loaded it might accidentally discharge while the janitor is emptying the trash.

jkhuggins Oct 19, 2012 6:41 pm


Originally Posted by mahohmei (Post 19525698)
:D

Completely forgot about the part where you get to just keep it if you want it.

Assuming you're in a state whose gun licensing laws, and your own state of licensing, permit you to legally possess that gun, of course. I'm largely unfamiliar with those laws, but I've read enough threads here regarding New York's incredibly restrictive laws to avoid claiming an abandoned weapon unless I knew for sure that I wouldn't get arrested three steps outside of the airport ...

InkUnderNails Oct 19, 2012 7:15 pm


Originally Posted by jkhuggins (Post 19529220)
Assuming you're in a state whose gun licensing laws, and your own state of licensing, permit you to legally possess that gun, of course. I'm largely unfamiliar with those laws, but I've read enough threads here regarding New York's incredibly restrictive laws to avoid claiming an abandoned weapon unless I knew for sure that I wouldn't get arrested three steps outside of the airport ...

Where I live, that would not be a problem. Getting out of the airport might be. It is the rare airport where the carry on is checked on the way out. I have a CWP. Once I am off airport grounds. No problem. There is a huge problem if I am checked and the gun is traced. For that reason, it could never be sold, given away, or displayed. Still works fine for its intended purpose.

All that said, I would never take the risk. My post above was an attempt at humor. Unless it was a really nice Sig or maybe a Single Stack Springfield .45. Ok, not then either, but more tempting.

bluenotesro Oct 19, 2012 10:31 pm

Dump it, get rid of it. And sit back and watch the show as some poor idiot is running around the airport looking for his 'gun'. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he has to explain himself :D

LaserSailor Oct 21, 2012 5:33 pm

Snap a cell phone picture of the serial number and release to the media.

In NY, you do not want to be caught carrying a weapon without a NY Permit.

coachrowsey Oct 22, 2012 7:05 am

He or she will be in a heep of trouble:D

halls120 Oct 22, 2012 10:29 am


Originally Posted by LaserSailor (Post 19539260)
Snap a cell phone picture of the serial number and release to the media.

ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!

mahohmei Oct 22, 2012 10:59 am


Originally Posted by cbn42 (Post 19529084)
That could be rather dangerous. A janitor might find it, because a gun would be rather heavy compared to the paper towels and wrappers that bathroom trashcans are usually filled with. If its loaded it might accidentally discharge while the janitor is emptying the trash.

Good point, and I'd assume that clearing a gun in a toilet stall would make enough gunny noises to attract unwanted attention. I would intent on throwing the weapon in a trash can _outside_ the bathroom, so the janitors would be expecting a heavy trash bag, as it wouldn't be filled with just paper towels.

If there's a plumbing access hatch in one of the toilet stalls, you could drop the weapon into the wall cavity, not to be seen for a long time.

This is purely academic, and I hope to never find myself in such a situation. I simply do not want my day ruined because one weapon caused a terminal lockdown.

BTW, if AQ is listening, idea for an attack: sneak knives airside and just start leaving them in random, "scary" locations, like in seat back pockets. Do this on several high-capacity aircraft scattered around the country, and sit back as you watch air travel grind to a screeching halt for something that poses zero real risk. Heck, you don't even have to call in bomb threats.


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