Cancer Patients Abused by TSA [merged threads]
#31
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
What laws are those that TSA operates under? I would like to read them, especially the part that says TSA can assault people without any reason.
What laws are those that TSA operates under? I would like to read them, especially the part that says TSA can assault people without any reason.
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Having cancer is a “disadvantage”? Not in my book, I call it a disease, but that’s just me.
“The disadvantaged” is a misnomer, and an inaccurate description designed to make us feel better about ourselves and a means of belittling them. They are people, that’s all. They may be required to make adjustments to how they do the same things that you and I do and achieve the desired results, but that does not make them “disadvantaged”. It’s a rancid term used by the politically correct to make them less than normal.
“The disadvantaged” is a misnomer, and an inaccurate description designed to make us feel better about ourselves and a means of belittling them. They are people, that’s all. They may be required to make adjustments to how they do the same things that you and I do and achieve the desired results, but that does not make them “disadvantaged”. It’s a rancid term used by the politically correct to make them less than normal.
First of all, I said "disadvantaged and most vulnerable." If you don't consider a woman who has a physically sensitive recent surgical scar with artificial/temporary tissue expanders more "vulnerable" than a perfectly healthy person, there's not much I can do. See previous comment about TSA culture being beyond repair. Now, 11 years ago that vulnerability would have been irrelevant at an airport because the security process would not expose it, but your colleagues and management have changed that.
As for being "disadvantaged," TSA's treatment of people with medical issues, specifically sending them through the NoS which "alarms" on medical items that would not trigger the WTMD and are not WEI, and then insisting on "resolving" those alarms with painful and invasive searches, is the disadvantage. Because of people like you, being a cancer survivor or person with another medical issue is a vulnerability and disadvantage at the airport.
At a very basic level, if she has to arrive at the airport 30 minutes before me because of what TSA insists on doing for her, that's a disadvantage.
And I've never been accused of being PC before, so that's kind of funny. I'm very conservative and very not PC.
Talk to congress, not me or the others here. We didn’t make the laws, congress did. Point your finger where it should be pointed. @:-)
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Perhaps it picked up surgical scars or drains or the lack of a nipple in the breast area.
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Cancer patients abused by TSA
Two more women have come forward with awful TSA experiences. One is dying of leukemia and the other is a breast cancer survivor.
http://www.kctv5.com/story/19771864/...ancer-survivor
.."Deitrick said the TSA agent asked if she was wearing something on her chest. She soon realized it was her scars the TSA screener took issue with
The employee radioed in "an anomaly," something outside the norm, and told Deitrick she need to check her manually...
"I don't think that the TSA agents across the country are being uniformly and properly trained to be able to know what to look at and what to look for and what to expect when a breast cancer survivor comes through a body scanner," she said.
As a breast cancer survivor, Deitrick's profile may not fit the majority, but as one of 2.9 million in the United States, she is also far from rare.
"I'm not an anomaly. I'm the reality of breast cancer just like those other 2.9 million women are, and I think that we deserve better when we go through airport screening. We deserve to have TSA screeners who know what they're looking at," she said..."
http://www.kboi2.com/news/local/173291181.html
"...A machine couldn't get a reading on her saline bags, so a TSA agent forced one open, contaminating the fluid she needs to survive.
She says agents also made her lift up her shirt and pull back the bandages holding feeding tubes in place. Dunaj needs those tubes because of organ failure...
However, Dunaj says her request for a private screening was denied, and she does not want others with special needs to run into the same problem..."
http://www.kctv5.com/story/19771864/...ancer-survivor
.."Deitrick said the TSA agent asked if she was wearing something on her chest. She soon realized it was her scars the TSA screener took issue with
The employee radioed in "an anomaly," something outside the norm, and told Deitrick she need to check her manually...
"I don't think that the TSA agents across the country are being uniformly and properly trained to be able to know what to look at and what to look for and what to expect when a breast cancer survivor comes through a body scanner," she said.
As a breast cancer survivor, Deitrick's profile may not fit the majority, but as one of 2.9 million in the United States, she is also far from rare.
"I'm not an anomaly. I'm the reality of breast cancer just like those other 2.9 million women are, and I think that we deserve better when we go through airport screening. We deserve to have TSA screeners who know what they're looking at," she said..."
http://www.kboi2.com/news/local/173291181.html
"...A machine couldn't get a reading on her saline bags, so a TSA agent forced one open, contaminating the fluid she needs to survive.
She says agents also made her lift up her shirt and pull back the bandages holding feeding tubes in place. Dunaj needs those tubes because of organ failure...
However, Dunaj says her request for a private screening was denied, and she does not want others with special needs to run into the same problem..."
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The comments on the site:
http://www.kctv5.com/story/19771864/...ancer-survivor
make me want to barf!
Please vote and add comments from our side.^
http://www.kctv5.com/story/19771864/...ancer-survivor
make me want to barf!
Please vote and add comments from our side.^
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Anyone taking bets on Blogger Bob's response to each of these incidents? Will it be "Proper procedures were followed", "We have reviewed the incident(s) and determined that it (they) did not occur the passenger(s) described", or both?
Edited to clarify. Wish it hadn't already been quoted.
Edited to clarify. Wish it hadn't already been quoted.
Last edited by wildcatlh; Oct 9, 2012 at 2:52 pm
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I think he will say both. Another question is, will the videotape be inconclusive, blurry, or missing?
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When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
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When they came for the trade unionists,
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When they came for the Jews,
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#45
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The airport in the first story was Kansas City, MO, correct, which is MCI?
Isn't that airport still managed by a contract security firm? I met with management from that firm there in 2011 in regards to an encounter I had with a screener at the checkpoint which left me unable to step away from the screening area without risking exposing myself, and also in pain.
I will give credit to the manager for the way he handled the situation, but if this is in fact the same airport I am extremely disappointed that they apparently have not improved when it comes to dealing with passengers with out of ordinary situations.
The airport in the second story is SEA. I have heard many bad stories about SEA but did report my own experience was relatively positive the last time I flew from there. However I may have been lucky as the reports about several female TSOs there are not so positive.
Isn't that airport still managed by a contract security firm? I met with management from that firm there in 2011 in regards to an encounter I had with a screener at the checkpoint which left me unable to step away from the screening area without risking exposing myself, and also in pain.
I will give credit to the manager for the way he handled the situation, but if this is in fact the same airport I am extremely disappointed that they apparently have not improved when it comes to dealing with passengers with out of ordinary situations.
The airport in the second story is SEA. I have heard many bad stories about SEA but did report my own experience was relatively positive the last time I flew from there. However I may have been lucky as the reports about several female TSOs there are not so positive.
Last edited by exbayern; Oct 9, 2012 at 4:39 pm