Strategy for filing a damaged property claim from TSA search of checked baggage?
#1
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Strategy for filing a damaged property claim from TSA search of checked baggage?
I checked a bag containing two waterskis and ski gear at FLL. When I unpacked the bag I found a destructively mistreated ski - someone had yanked on the front binding (boot) so hard that the bolts sheared completely through the boot mount, leaving crumpled washers hanging loose on the bare threads. The metal plate on the ski to which the bindings attach was also bent.
There can be no mechanism for this type of damage other than someone pulling on the binding, because the broken parts are in the center of the ski and the fiberglass is pristine. This damage couldn't have been caused by rough handling of a closed bag.
The ski will have to be replaced at a cost of about $1000. I know the chances of TSA paying up are slim to none, but I want to file my claim nonetheless to impact the TSA's precious complaint statistics. Does anyone have advice for me? I took multiple photos of the damage.
There can be no mechanism for this type of damage other than someone pulling on the binding, because the broken parts are in the center of the ski and the fiberglass is pristine. This damage couldn't have been caused by rough handling of a closed bag.
The ski will have to be replaced at a cost of about $1000. I know the chances of TSA paying up are slim to none, but I want to file my claim nonetheless to impact the TSA's precious complaint statistics. Does anyone have advice for me? I took multiple photos of the damage.
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I checked a bag containing two waterskis and ski gear at FLL. When I unpacked the bag I found a destructively mistreated ski - someone had yanked on the front binding (boot) so hard that the bolts sheared completely through the boot mount, leaving crumpled washers hanging loose on the bare threads. The metal plate on the ski to which the bindings attach was also bent.
There can be no mechanism for this type of damage other than someone pulling on the binding, because the broken parts are in the center of the ski and the fiberglass is pristine. This damage couldn't have been caused by rough handling of a closed bag.
The ski will have to be replaced at a cost of about $1000. I know the chances of TSA paying up are slim to none, but I want to file my claim nonetheless to impact the TSA's precious complaint statistics. Does anyone have advice for me? I took multiple photos of the damage.
There can be no mechanism for this type of damage other than someone pulling on the binding, because the broken parts are in the center of the ski and the fiberglass is pristine. This damage couldn't have been caused by rough handling of a closed bag.
The ski will have to be replaced at a cost of about $1000. I know the chances of TSA paying up are slim to none, but I want to file my claim nonetheless to impact the TSA's precious complaint statistics. Does anyone have advice for me? I took multiple photos of the damage.
If there was, you should file the claim with both the airline and the TSA. No real "strategy," to it, just file the claim. If no form, odds are the TSA had nothing to do with it, and the airline owes you money.
Also, have we forgotten the division between the "debate" forum and the "practical" forum? This post actually strikes me as looking for practical advice. Why is it in the debate forum? (There's also a current thread in the practical forum that is decidedly for the debate forum.)
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1. There's no strategy. Just follow the rules.
2. File complaints with TSA, the air carrier and your travel insurer (might be CC, homeowners, etc).
Don't get your hopes up and, presuming that the item is anything other than brand-spanking new, don't expect much because the FMV of a water ski likely drops pretty quickly.
2. File complaints with TSA, the air carrier and your travel insurer (might be CC, homeowners, etc).
Don't get your hopes up and, presuming that the item is anything other than brand-spanking new, don't expect much because the FMV of a water ski likely drops pretty quickly.
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I checked a bag containing two waterskis and ski gear at FLL. When I unpacked the bag I found a destructively mistreated ski - someone had yanked on the front binding (boot) so hard that the bolts sheared completely through the boot mount, leaving crumpled washers hanging loose on the bare threads. The metal plate on the ski to which the bindings attach was also bent.
There can be no mechanism for this type of damage other than someone pulling on the binding, because the broken parts are in the center of the ski and the fiberglass is pristine. This damage couldn't have been caused by rough handling of a closed bag.
The ski will have to be replaced at a cost of about $1000. I know the chances of TSA paying up are slim to none, but I want to file my claim nonetheless to impact the TSA's precious complaint statistics. Does anyone have advice for me? I took multiple photos of the damage.
There can be no mechanism for this type of damage other than someone pulling on the binding, because the broken parts are in the center of the ski and the fiberglass is pristine. This damage couldn't have been caused by rough handling of a closed bag.
The ski will have to be replaced at a cost of about $1000. I know the chances of TSA paying up are slim to none, but I want to file my claim nonetheless to impact the TSA's precious complaint statistics. Does anyone have advice for me? I took multiple photos of the damage.
I would get a hold of a local contact at FLL, give that person your information and ask that this be investigated. You can use this form to file a claim, but you might want to get a hold of the local people first to see if you can't drum up some evidence, or at least get it preserved for review. You lose nothing by doing this.
http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/sf-95_claim_package.pdf
#8
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Thank you to all for the advice. I will try to obtain video of the search, and will file my claim.
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I was pretty shocked by the damage; the boot was partially pried off with both of the back two fasteners (out of 6) destroyed. I can imagine that the ski could have been held into the case because it was wrapped in our wetsuits and jackets, and that someone might have tried to free it by yanking too hard on the loop that's there at the back of the boot. The skis are wrapped to protect the surfaces and fins.
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This is correct. I actually won a claim against them. They mentioned nothing about whether there was a video or not (I suspect they had no controls whatsoever). They simply never sent me a check.
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I wonder if you could (with a court order and a sheriff) have some property of the TSA seized and auctioned off (by the sheriff's dept) in order to be compensated for your claim? You'd have to find something more valuable than the amount of your claim of course... both the sheriff's dept. and the auction house are entitled to a portion of the proceeds. The TSA would be entitled to any remainder after your claim is settled and everybody else gets their portion.
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I wonder if you could (with a court order and a sheriff) have some property of the TSA seized and auctioned off (by the sheriff's dept) in order to be compensated for your claim? You'd have to find something more valuable than the amount of your claim of course... both the sheriff's dept. and the auction house are entitled to a portion of the proceeds. The TSA would be entitled to any remainder after your claim is settled and everybody else gets their portion.
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