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Old Aug 22, 2012, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by Centurion
The man deserves to be compensated for showing their is no security. The TSA is a joke. Now with my remark I am sure all my flyertalk posts, email, communication will get read as a possible threat person level 3.:roll eyes:
TSA has nothing to do with the Perimeter Intrusion Detection System. This is on PANYNJ and Raytheon, the vendor which is responsible for it. The PIDS has never actually worked, from what I understand.
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Old Aug 22, 2012, 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Pesky Monkey
You have no idea what it takes to swim 3 miles (not in a pool.) I'm more amazed that he's alive and could climb that fence. He has a 0% chance of being convicted by a jury if he's smart enough to demand one.
Are you saying the fence is in the water??? If so, I'll change my opinion.
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Old Aug 22, 2012, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by gobluetwo
TSA has nothing to do with the Perimeter Intrusion Detection System. This is on PANYNJ and Raytheon, the vendor which is responsible for it. The PIDS has never actually worked, from what I understand.
TSA approves the airports security plan. The plan failed, TSA failed.
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Old Aug 22, 2012, 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
Are you saying the fence is in the water??? If so, I'll change my opinion.
No, the fence is not in the water, but take a loot at a view of the airport. The distance from those houses at the far left(west) of the picture, on the opposite side of the basin from the runway, to the opposite side of the basin at the far right side of the picture(east) is 4.1 miles. The distance from the shoreline to a terminal anywhere along that length from the intersection of the 2 runways is less than 1/4 mile.

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Old Aug 22, 2012, 3:48 pm
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How far offshore was he when he lost the jetski?
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Old Aug 23, 2012, 8:20 am
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
TSA approves the airports security plan. The plan failed, TSA failed.
Yeah, ok.
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Old Aug 23, 2012, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by gobluetwo
Yeah, ok.
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text....3.5.10.1.10.2


1542.101 General requirements.
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(a) No person may operate an airport subject to §1542.103 unless it adopts and carries out a security program that—

(1) Provides for the safety and security of persons and property on an aircraft operating in air transportation or intrastate air transportation against an act of criminal violence, aircraft piracy, and the introduction of an unauthorized weapon, explosive, or incendiary onto an aircraft;

(2) Is in writing and is signed by the airport operator;

(3) Includes the applicable items listed in §1542.103;

(4) Includes an index organized in the same subject area sequence as §1542.103; and

(5) Has been approved by TSA.

(b) Each airport operator subject to §1542.103 must maintain one current and complete copy of its security program and provide a copy to TSA upon request.

(c) Each airport operator subject to §1542.103 must—

(1) Restrict the distribution, disclosure, and availability of sensitive security information (SSI), as defined in part 1520 of this chapter, to persons with a need to know; and

(2) Refer all requests for SSI by other persons to TSA.

[67 FR 8355, Feb. 22, 2002, as amended at 71 FR 30509, May 26, 2006]
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Old Aug 23, 2012, 10:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
Are you saying the fence is in the water??? If so, I'll change my opinion.
Nope. Try swimming 3 miles, get out of the water, and climb an 8 foot fence, at night. I'll personally award you a medal.
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Old Aug 23, 2012, 10:53 pm
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Have they dropped the charges yet? I believe that's inevitable.

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Old Aug 24, 2012, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by Pesky Monkey
Nope. Try swimming 3 miles, get out of the water, and climb an 8 foot fence, at night. I'll personally award you a medal.
I still don't see your point.

He went for a long swim, got out of the water and found a secure fence.

He chose to climb it rather than follow it. Why??
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
I still don't see your point.

He went for a long swim, got out of the water and found a secure fence.

He chose to climb it rather than follow it. Why??
Because he was desperate to find help and the closest (by far) things he could see were visible beynd the fence.
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
I still don't see your point.

He went for a long swim, got out of the water and found a secure fence.

He chose to climb it rather than follow it. Why??
It really isn't that hard to figure out. He could see people, activity and knew there were emergency personnel very close by. If he goes however far east or west, he had no idea how far, he's still unsure of what kind of help he will find.
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 1:45 pm
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If he'd just gone ALONG the fence instead of THROUGH it, they could have just arrested him without all the witnesses and fuss and 3 page thread on FT...
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 6:34 pm
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If he'd just gone ALONG the fence instead of THROUGH it, they could have just arrested him without all the witnesses and fuss and 3 page thread on FT...
They wouldn't have arrested him at all. Walking around would probably be another 4 miles. I'd do the same thing, except I would have drowned by then.
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 9:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy
Because he was desperate to find help and the closest (by far) things he could see were visible beynd the fence.
It wasn't--he walked for miles after going over the fence.
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