Flight Diverted Over Unclaimed Camera
#46
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Upon reporting this story this morning, Soledad O'Brien at first spontaneously channeled what IMO is the justified outrage of needlessly inconvenienced passengers on this flight, saying something like, "Can you imagine how the passengers on that flight felt? 'Someone just claim the stupid camera so we can get to Geneva.'" I was momentarily shocked and surprisingly pleased (I don't agree with her opinions much).
Then a few seconds later she thought better of herself and made some inane "safety first" comment.
"Anything for Security (TM) Out of an Abundance of Caution (TM)"
Then a few seconds later she thought better of herself and made some inane "safety first" comment.
"Anything for Security (TM) Out of an Abundance of Caution (TM)"

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I once found a Kindle in the seat back pocket. I had a brief moment of indecision as to what to do, but when I turned it on, the owners email popped up. I dropped it in my backpack and notified the owner when I got home.
Good decision. I did not want my flight diverted over a lost Kindle.
There has to be a directive about fake cameras, or this is just dumb.
Good decision. I did not want my flight diverted over a lost Kindle.
There has to be a directive about fake cameras, or this is just dumb.
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Many nervous nellies think carrying a GPS is a sign of being a terrorist, since it could in theory be used to guide an aircraft.

That there were no reported flight diversions in the next few days in fact suggests to me that the gate agent pocketed it.
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UA doesn't fly into BGR, so there would be no agents to help assist passengers if the flight didn't leave again.
I'd LOVE to see a 767 at PWM...but that ain't happening either, haha. Largest aircraft UA @ PWM's seen in the past 10 years is a 737.
Plus, depending on what time the plane decided to divert, the runway at PWM may have been closed for construction.
I'd LOVE to see a 767 at PWM...but that ain't happening either, haha. Largest aircraft UA @ PWM's seen in the past 10 years is a 737.
Plus, depending on what time the plane decided to divert, the runway at PWM may have been closed for construction.
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That's one of the most ridiculous assertions I've ever seen on TS&S, more so than any of the TSA flag-wavers who toe the company line or any of the paranoid delusions I've seen on other web sites.
It's a camera. It's pretty obviously a camera. It's so ridiculously obviously a camera that the paranoid fraidy-cat FA who precipitated this incident should be fired immediately and charged by federal authorities for making a false report.
I left a handheld GPS on a plane at DEN in 2005. (Well, sort of. I knew I downloaded data from the GPS to my computer on the fight and knew I didn't have the GPS immediately after deplaning, but the gate agent wouldn't let me back on the plane to look for it, and she either did an extremely cursory search for it or pocketed it, because I never got it back.)
Many nervous nellies think carrying a GPS is a sign of being a terrorist, since it could in theory be used to guide an aircraft.
That there were no reported flight diversions in the next few days in fact suggests to me that the gate agent pocketed it.
Many nervous nellies think carrying a GPS is a sign of being a terrorist, since it could in theory be used to guide an aircraft.

That there were no reported flight diversions in the next few days in fact suggests to me that the gate agent pocketed it.
Nervous Nellies are going to be the ruination of this country.
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I'm going to hazard a guess that any aircraft which declares a "terror" emergency will get fighter escorts for the specific purpose of blowing it out of the sky if it turns out to have been hijacked to be used as a ballistic missile. You know, like they did on 9/11.
Who makes the decision on when to blow an aircraft full of innocent hostages out of the sky, based on what evidence that it's a threat to others, I can't imagine. But given the propensity for gross, panicked over-reaction to anything out of the ordinary (or to ordinary stuff like a forgotten camera in a seatback pocket), the mere presence of fighters would be absolutely terrifying to me if I were aboard such an aircraft.
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9/11! 9/11! 9/11!
I'm going to hazard a guess that any aircraft which declares a "terror" emergency will get fighter escorts for the specific purpose of blowing it out of the sky if it turns out to have been hijacked to be used as a ballistic missile. You know, like they did on 9/11.
Who makes the decision on when to blow an aircraft full of innocent hostages out of the sky, based on what evidence that it's a threat to others, I can't imagine. But given the propensity for gross, panicked over-reaction to anything out of the ordinary (or to ordinary stuff like a forgotten camera in a seatback pocket), the mere presence of fighters would be absolutely terrifying to me if I were aboard such an aircraft.
I'm going to hazard a guess that any aircraft which declares a "terror" emergency will get fighter escorts for the specific purpose of blowing it out of the sky if it turns out to have been hijacked to be used as a ballistic missile. You know, like they did on 9/11.
Who makes the decision on when to blow an aircraft full of innocent hostages out of the sky, based on what evidence that it's a threat to others, I can't imagine. But given the propensity for gross, panicked over-reaction to anything out of the ordinary (or to ordinary stuff like a forgotten camera in a seatback pocket), the mere presence of fighters would be absolutely terrifying to me if I were aboard such an aircraft.
Mike