Flight Diverted Over Unclaimed Camera

Old Aug 2, 12, 5:50 am
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Originally Posted by studentff View Post
Upon reporting this story this morning, Soledad O'Brien at first spontaneously channeled what IMO is the justified outrage of needlessly inconvenienced passengers on this flight, saying something like, "Can you imagine how the passengers on that flight felt? 'Someone just claim the stupid camera so we can get to Geneva.'" I was momentarily shocked and surprisingly pleased (I don't agree with her opinions much).

Then a few seconds later she thought better of herself and made some inane "safety first" comment.

"Anything for Security (TM) Out of an Abundance of Caution (TM)"
Thankfully we have Hala Gorani on the international side of CNN. Although I rarely watch CNN I have heard her making comments about the idiocy of the American 'anything for safety' mentality. I was frankly surprised that she was left unchecked and uncensored, but the international versions of CNN tend not to be waving the American flag as frequeuntly.
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Old Aug 2, 12, 6:12 am
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I once found a Kindle in the seat back pocket. I had a brief moment of indecision as to what to do, but when I turned it on, the owners email popped up. I dropped it in my backpack and notified the owner when I got home.

Good decision. I did not want my flight diverted over a lost Kindle.

There has to be a directive about fake cameras, or this is just dumb.
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Old Aug 2, 12, 9:59 am
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I once left my BlackBerry on a plane once. I wonder if it was diverted on the next flight.
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Old Aug 2, 12, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by lovely15 View Post
I once left my BlackBerry on a plane once. I wonder if it was diverted on the next flight.
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I left a handheld GPS on a plane at DEN in 2005. (Well, sort of. I knew I downloaded data from the GPS to my computer on the fight and knew I didn't have the GPS immediately after deplaning, but the gate agent wouldn't let me back on the plane to look for it, and she either did an extremely cursory search for it or pocketed it, because I never got it back.)

Many nervous nellies think carrying a GPS is a sign of being a terrorist, since it could in theory be used to guide an aircraft.

That there were no reported flight diversions in the next few days in fact suggests to me that the gate agent pocketed it.
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Old Aug 2, 12, 9:09 pm
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Originally Posted by lovely15 View Post
I once left my BlackBerry on a plane once. I wonder if it was diverted on the next flight.
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You are taking your own responsibilities for that. You have put the blackberry in the carryon bag. Don't leave behind in the aircraft.
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Old Aug 2, 12, 10:46 pm
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Originally Posted by N830MH View Post
You are taking your own responsibilities for that. You have put the blackberry in the carryon bag. Don't leave behind in the aircraft.
Sarcasm must have flown over your head...
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Old Aug 3, 12, 12:44 am
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Originally Posted by UnitedFlyGuy View Post
Sarcasm must have flown over your head...
The Google Translate page has a hard time with that.
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Old Aug 3, 12, 1:18 am
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Originally Posted by Himeno View Post
Why go to Boston? Why not Bangor or Portland, ME?
UA doesn't fly into BGR, so there would be no agents to help assist passengers if the flight didn't leave again.


I'd LOVE to see a 767 at PWM...but that ain't happening either, haha. Largest aircraft UA @ PWM's seen in the past 10 years is a 737.


Plus, depending on what time the plane decided to divert, the runway at PWM may have been closed for construction.
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Old Aug 4, 12, 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by coachrowsey View Post
IMO (based on article) flight crew done the right thing. Now I understand that 99.9% of these things turn out false but I don't want to be on the one that's false.

Now go ahead and slam me.
I don't usually slam people, but since you specifically asked for it...

That's one of the most ridiculous assertions I've ever seen on TS&S, more so than any of the TSA flag-wavers who toe the company line or any of the paranoid delusions I've seen on other web sites.

It's a camera. It's pretty obviously a camera. It's so ridiculously obviously a camera that the paranoid fraidy-cat FA who precipitated this incident should be fired immediately and charged by federal authorities for making a false report.

Originally Posted by studentff View Post
I left a handheld GPS on a plane at DEN in 2005. (Well, sort of. I knew I downloaded data from the GPS to my computer on the fight and knew I didn't have the GPS immediately after deplaning, but the gate agent wouldn't let me back on the plane to look for it, and she either did an extremely cursory search for it or pocketed it, because I never got it back.)

Many nervous nellies think carrying a GPS is a sign of being a terrorist, since it could in theory be used to guide an aircraft.

That there were no reported flight diversions in the next few days in fact suggests to me that the gate agent pocketed it.
Many Nervous Nellies also think that anyone with a camera is a terrorist or a pedophile. Many Nervous Nellies think that anyone wearing a turban is a Muslim, since they're too stupid to know what a Sikh is. Many Nervous Nellies think that anyone with brown skin and an accent is a terrorist, since they're bigots or morons (or both).

Nervous Nellies are going to be the ruination of this country.
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Old Aug 4, 12, 1:29 pm
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Nervous Nellies are going to be the ruination of this country.
FTFY.
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Old Aug 8, 12, 2:33 am
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The flight was escorted to Bostonís Logan International Airport by fighter planes and taken to a remote location.


What exactly was the reason for the fighter escort?
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Old Aug 8, 12, 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger View Post
The flight was escorted to Bostonís Logan International Airport by fighter planes and taken to a remote location.


What exactly was the reason for the fighter escort?
9/11! 9/11! 9/11!

I'm going to hazard a guess that any aircraft which declares a "terror" emergency will get fighter escorts for the specific purpose of blowing it out of the sky if it turns out to have been hijacked to be used as a ballistic missile. You know, like they did on 9/11.

Who makes the decision on when to blow an aircraft full of innocent hostages out of the sky, based on what evidence that it's a threat to others, I can't imagine. But given the propensity for gross, panicked over-reaction to anything out of the ordinary (or to ordinary stuff like a forgotten camera in a seatback pocket), the mere presence of fighters would be absolutely terrifying to me if I were aboard such an aircraft.
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Old Aug 8, 12, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by WillCAD View Post
9/11! 9/11! 9/11!

I'm going to hazard a guess that any aircraft which declares a "terror" emergency will get fighter escorts for the specific purpose of blowing it out of the sky if it turns out to have been hijacked to be used as a ballistic missile. You know, like they did on 9/11.

Who makes the decision on when to blow an aircraft full of innocent hostages out of the sky, based on what evidence that it's a threat to others, I can't imagine. But given the propensity for gross, panicked over-reaction to anything out of the ordinary (or to ordinary stuff like a forgotten camera in a seatback pocket), the mere presence of fighters would be absolutely terrifying to me if I were aboard such an aircraft.
Would have been cool if someone had used the offending camera to take a picture of the escort, right before it got missile-lock.

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