Terminal dump at JFK 7

Old Jun 23, 12, 5:57 pm
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Terminal dump at JFK 7

It took two hours but they realized a metal detector wasn't working.

http://news.yahoo.com/hundreds-evacu...171415179.html

Flights must have taken off and yet did not explode.
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Old Jun 23, 12, 7:46 pm
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So the WTMD alarms SO SELDOM that two hours can pass without an alarm and the minder doesn't think that's odd? How numb can they be?

Or else the job itself is so numbing that they swap minders out every 5 minutes, so each one's visibility of the problem is only five minutes wide?

Sheesh. Every SINGLE slot machine in a casino (or the gambling state's airports) is network monitored to make sure they don't "malfunction" and pay off too often, aren't they? I suppose the country's security is less important than the profitability of the smallest casino.

Shouldn't the WTMD be emitting a random "screen this victim" alarm every so often? Did they fail to notice THIS for two hours as well?

Another porous layer. They should just shut up about the fallibility of the machines. No bad guy was going to notice anyway. No need for the terminal dump to call attention to their idiocy.
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Old Jun 23, 12, 7:49 pm
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So the WTMD alarms SO SELDOM that two hours can pass without an alarm and the minder doesn't think that's odd? How numb can they be?
It's the TSA.
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Old Jun 24, 12, 8:56 am
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So the WTMD alarms SO SELDOM that two hours can pass without an alarm and the minder doesn't think that's odd? How numb can they be?
It's hard for it to alarm when it's not plugged in.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/u..._content=Local

Good job TSA!
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They named the perp? Cool. Alija Abdul Majed, for the record.

And they "had no choice" but to run a terminal dump? Nah, they could have easily said - no bad guy got through. Let's just add one item to the checkpoint checklist and carry on.

But no........
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Got to love the comments to the NY Post article. How long have we got to put up with these TSA clowns before somebody takes a serious look at them and starts correcting these problems? They are a disgrace to this once proud country.
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Old Jun 24, 12, 9:37 am
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Indeed.

These fools are keeping us safe?!?
The TSA’s bungling reached a new low yesterday when a JFK Airport terminal had to be evacuated and hundreds of passengers marched back through security screening all because one dimwitted agent failed to realize his metal detector had been unplugged, sources told The Post.
The stunning error led to hours of delays, two planes called back from the runway and infinite frustration for furious passengers.
“The truth is, this is the failure of the most basic level of diligence,” a law-enforcement source said.
“How can you expect the public to feel confident of the mission of the TSA if they don’t even know if the lights are turned on?”
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Old Jun 24, 12, 9:38 am
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The TSA would not confirm or deny that its detector had been unplugged, releasing a statement saying only that a metal detector suffered a “malfunction.”
Sorry, but I just have to chuckle* with this piece of prose


*actually cry because this is simply just so sad.....
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Sorry, but I just have to chuckle* with this piece of prose


*actually cry because this is simply just so sad.....
Others, like Jason Bailey, who was headed to San Diego, didn’t mind the delay.

“It’s a big inconvenience, but it’s better safe than sorry,” he said.
Ah yes. And in the case of Mr. Bailey and others who think like him, the porch light is on but nobody's home.

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Old Jun 24, 12, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by mules View Post
It took two hours but they realized a metal detector wasn't working.

http://news.yahoo.com/hundreds-evacu...171415179.html

Flights must have taken off and yet did not explode.
I'm almost positive that even before I do a walk-around on an aircraft I verify voltage per the checklist. In fact even during the flight I look at what the voltage is.

Perhaps the TSA "trainers" could invent a new tool called checklists? Perhaps one prior to opening checkpoint and another for hand-off?

Although I certainly do appreciate the TSA's efforts and giving us material.
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Old Jun 24, 12, 10:29 am
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Originally Posted by TheRoadie View Post
How numb can they be?
They work for the TSA. 'Nuff said.
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Old Jun 24, 12, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by TheRoadie View Post
They named the perp? Cool. Alija Abdul Majed, for the record.

And they "had no choice" but to run a terminal dump? Nah, they could have easily said - no bad guy got through. Let's just add one item to the checkpoint checklist and carry on.

But no........
No, there is no terrorist at airport. They never was. TSA should have correctly to plugged it in and not unplugged the cord. TSA will have more appropriate behavior and they have try to fixed the metal detector. Don't let anymore evacuated the terminal. They have followed the specific rules and don't ever do it again.
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Old Jun 24, 12, 12:58 pm
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did the other layers of security ensure that there was no risk to the traveling public?
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Old Jun 24, 12, 1:28 pm
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did the other layers of security ensure that there was no risk to the traveling public?
The remaining layers of security retained their imposing and impregnable illusion of infallibility, as always.

I meant, of course, the illusion was imposing and impregnable. To characterize the existing theater as infallible would be an insult to the word.

That said, the risk was slightly elevated during the screening gap. From 1 in 42,000,000,000 to 1 in 45,000,000,000 I estimate. Less than my choking to death on tropical drink umbrella, I figure.
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Old Jun 24, 12, 9:06 pm
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If one of the pax going through the powerless WTMD noticed the lights weren't on and said something, would they get charged with "interfering in the screening process"?
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