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Not a chance in Satan's realm would I let a TSO open my sealed meds let alone
stick something in it that could contaminate it. I would be screaming for a supervisor.
Originally Posted by T.J. Bender
(Post 18763260)
I've never seen them randomly test people's drinks on the sterile side. I have, however, seen a TSO go ballistic on a poor, unsuspecting passenger who had their own water bottle filled during a gate check. Apparently the concept of filling your empty bottle at a water fountain is foreign to them, as they wanted to know how the bottle had made it through security before making the usual "I'll remember you" threat and confiscating the bottle.
For the record, it was a 32 oz. Nalgene. Very nice bottle. Makes you wonder if the TSO was going hiking that weekend. |
Originally Posted by knwl9
(Post 18744053)
can they open medication like this and put something in them to test it, would not like to put the drops in my eyes after they have contaminated the drops with an unknown substance
Just because you say it’s a medicine does not give it a free pass. Could be any kind of liquid in the bottle, and “factory seals” can be fakes. Testing is the best option available at the checkpoint. |
Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 18777454)
Our test equipment does not require actually touching the liquid, so there is no reason to put a drop of it anywhere, it can remain in its container.
Just because you say it’s a medicine does not give it a free pass. Could be any kind of liquid in the bottle, and “factory seals” can be fakes. Testing is the best option available at the checkpoint. |
Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 18777454)
Our test equipment does not require actually touching the liquid, so there is no reason to put a drop of it anywhere, it can remain in its container.
ETD of swabs on the outside of a flask could detect peroxides, but not test strips waved in the air. That is pure security theater. |
Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 18777454)
Could be any kind of liquid in the bottle, and “factory seals” can be fakes. Testing is the best option available at the checkpoint.
Does anyone in the TSA even have a risk-management background? |
Originally Posted by lovely15
(Post 18778103)
Can't wait until TSA kills a diabetic in-flight by ruining their insulin or something.
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Originally Posted by lovely15
(Post 18778103)
Does anyone in the TSA even have a risk-management background?
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Originally Posted by BubbaLoop
(Post 18778064)
I will repeat here what I have already stated: There is no test strip that can detect peroxides in the air above a liquid flask. Methodologically it is simply unavailable (and I state this as a professional).
ETD of swabs on the outside of a flask could detect peroxides, but not test strips waved in the air. That is pure security theater. |
Originally Posted by MaximumSisu
(Post 18795601)
Don't confuse TSO's with facts. It makes their heads hurt.
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Originally Posted by BubbaLoop
(Post 18778064)
I will repeat here what I have already stated: There is no test strip that can detect peroxides in the air above a liquid flask. Methodologically it is simply unavailable (and I state this as a professional).
ETD of swabs on the outside of a flask could detect peroxides, but not test strips waved in the air. That is pure security theater. |
Originally Posted by BubbaLoop
(Post 18778064)
I will repeat here what I have already stated: There is no test strip that can detect peroxides in the air above a liquid flask. Methodologically it is simply unavailable (and I state this as a professional).
ETD of swabs on the outside of a flask could detect peroxides, but not test strips waved in the air. That is pure security theater. |
Originally Posted by Combat Medic
(Post 18777548)
Even if the testing destroys the item being tested?
Originally Posted by BubbaLoop
(Post 18778064)
I will repeat here what I have already stated: There is no test strip that can detect peroxides in the air above a liquid flask. Methodologically it is simply unavailable (and I state this as a professional).
You might want to look over the link. I have used this one several times, its an interesting little device that worked but didn’t quite meet TSA’s needs. Here is another one that is in use in many airports, read that link as well. Its always nice to have the facts available. Here are some others: http://www.plexsci.com/products/dete...ection/dropex/ http://spie.org/x86552.xml http://www.xplosafe.com/national-security.html And these are just a few, not a comprehensive list at all.
Originally Posted by BubbaLoop
(Post 18778064)
ETD of swabs on the outside of a flask could detect peroxides, but not test strips waved in the air. That is pure security theater.
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Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 18843282)
Such as?
Believe what you like, no one here is going to stop you. I have used the strips and can say as a professional that they work just fine. Peroxides are the easiest to detect, some others not so much. You might want to look over the link. I have used this one several times, its an interesting little device that worked but didn’t quite meet TSA’s needs. Here is another one that is in use in many airports, read that link as well. Its always nice to have the facts available. Here are some others: http://www.plexsci.com/products/dete...ection/dropex/ http://spie.org/x86552.xml http://www.xplosafe.com/national-security.html And these are just a few, not a comprehensive list at all. The proof has been provided for you. Its common technology that utilizes liquid vapors of the different chemicals. You “might” want to rethink your “professional opinion” just a bit and do some more research. |
Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 18843282)
Such as?
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Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 18843282)
Such as?
Believe what you like, no one here is going to stop you. I have used the strips and can say as a professional that they work just fine. Peroxides are the easiest to detect, some others not so much. You might want to look over the link. I have used this one several times, its an interesting little device that worked but didn’t quite meet TSA’s needs. Here is another one that is in use in many airports, read that link as well. Its always nice to have the facts available. Here are some others: http://www.plexsci.com/products/dete...ection/dropex/ http://spie.org/x86552.xml http://www.xplosafe.com/national-security.html And these are just a few, not a comprehensive list at all. The proof has been provided for you. Its common technology that utilizes liquid vapors of the different chemicals. You “might” want to rethink your “professional opinion” just a bit and do some more research. |
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