Airport Goons Hype "Body Bombs"

Old Apr 30, 2012, 5:35 pm
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Airport Goons Hype "Body Bombs"

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American and European authorities told ABC News today that they fear al Qaeda may soon try to explode U.S.-bound aircraft with explosives hidden inside the bodies of terrorists.

As a result, security at several airports in the U.K. and elsewhere in Europe and the Middle East has been substantially stepped up, with a focus on U.S. carriers.

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Asiri placed a bomb inside the rectal cavity of his own brother for a suicide mission aimed at Saudi Arabian intelligence chief Prince Muhammad bin Nayef in 2009. That bomb exploded prematurely, officials said


So exactly what kind of stepped-up security do they think is going to catch one of these ******* bombers.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by mbstone
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So exactly what kind of stepped-up security do they think is going to catch one of these ******* bombers.
Perhaps they will have to sniff the suspected area.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 6:28 pm
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Lead Story on ABC's "World News Tonight"

Diane Sawyer reported this story as "breaking news" on ABC's "World News
Tonight" Monday evening.

She claimed the TSA has plans to increase the radiation levels in the "full body xrays" because of an alleged threat by terrorists to hide explosives inside their bodies.

Sawyer also claimed the TSA was going to investigate "recent surgical scars" on passengers. Just great.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 6:45 pm
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o.o

Good thing I only fly east across the Atlantic.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 6:50 pm
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Originally Posted by GeneralAviation
Diane Sawyer reported this story as "breaking news" on ABC's "World News
Tonight" Monday evening.

She claimed the TSA has plans to increase the radiation levels in the "full body xrays" because of an alleged threat by terrorists to hide explosives inside their bodies.

Sawyer also claimed the TSA was going to investigate "recent surgical scars" on passengers. Just great.
I'm calling BS on the backscatter machines. They don't work that way. And most scanners are MMW which don't use radiation.

What I don't understand is why the TSA feels the need to increase security since the "intelligence" clearly indicates that the threat is to flights from Europe, not flights taking off from US airports.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 6:56 pm
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Originally Posted by realjd
What I don't understand is why the TSA feels the need to increase security since the "intelligence" clearly indicates that the threat is to flights from Europe, not flights taking off from US airports.
Why did TSA feel the need to ban/limit liquids after an impossible to work idea which never got out of planning came out of the UK?
Why did the TSA feel the need to remove shoes after a "shoe bomb" came from Europe?
Why did the TSA feel the need to grope/nude scan everyone after a "underwear bomb" came out of Africa/Europe?
The list goes on.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 6:58 pm
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What I don't understand is why the TSA feels the need to increase security since the "intelligence" clearly indicates that the threat is to flights from Europe, not flights taking off from US airports.
Every attack of significance since 9/11 has been foreign in origin, and yet all manner of checking is applied indiscriminately to US passengers. The risk is not with the domestic traveling population, but that is where the tools are applied.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 7:01 pm
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Found under a desk at TSA HQ:

Coming up to Thanksgiving...Coming up to Christmas...Coming up to July Fourth...Coming up to the anniversary of 9/11...Now that Bin Laden is dead...After the assassination of Anwar al-Awlaki...Coming up to the primary elections...Coming up to the presidential election...Coming up to the anniversary of Bin Laden's death, TSA believes that a terrorist strike is imminent.



Sheesh. Why don't they just say "we're taking a pasting in the media, Chertoff's retirement fund isn't growing quickly enough, so we're going to make up ANOTHER excuse why the American public needs to be afraid."

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"We are treating the information seriously," John Pistole, administrator of the Transportation Security Administration, told ABC News in 2011.
Way to keep up to date, ABC!
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 8:21 pm
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They roll out this hackneyed tripe every so often, especially after bad TSA press. It's ridiculous. Are you going to start feeling people's scars again? Didn't think so. Do you have machines ready to roll that are even more invasive than BackScatter, with the attendant outrage from passengers over been looked at naked and with higher levels of radiation? Didn't think so.

Ridiculous and unbelievable. Just about what you'd expect out of ABC.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 8:52 pm
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Originally Posted by nachtnebel
They roll out this hackneyed tripe every so often, especially after bad TSA press.
It's called calling in favors. Major media needs to keep on the good side of the government to get juicy titbits, so when asked to trot out some propaganda fluff they are more than happy to oblige.

By my reckoning this 'story' has been resurrected a dozen times since that episode of BBC 'Spooks' in what, 2003?
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 10:45 pm
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Originally Posted by realjd
I'm calling BS on the backscatter machines. They don't work that way. And most scanners are MMW which don't use radiation.

What I don't understand is why the TSA feels the need to increase security since the "intelligence" clearly indicates that the threat is to flights from Europe, not flights taking off from US airports.
Actually there are quite a few different types of threats to commercial aviation right here at home. Home grown extremists being first and foremost. The Uni-Bomber was not an isolated case, there are plenty of nut cases out there with agenda’s, right in our own back yard. There are also plenty of folks here that have expressed interest in AQAP’s training programs and political aims. Quite a few make trips to study with them, learn, and become just what AQAP wants, their own corps of American Suicide Bombers. Never underestimate the ability of a citizen to be manipulated by others.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 11:43 pm
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Originally Posted by TSORon
Actually there are quite a few different types of threats to commercial aviation right here at home. Home grown extremists being first and foremost. The Uni-Bomber was not an isolated case, there are plenty of nut cases out there with agenda’s, right in our own back yard. There are also plenty of folks here that have expressed interest in AQAP’s training programs and political aims. Quite a few make trips to study with them, learn, and become just what AQAP wants, their own corps of American Suicide Bombers. Never underestimate the ability of a citizen to be manipulated by others.
What do you propose as a solution? Full strip searches? Full body feel-overs? Cavity probes? Full body Xrays?

This threat is not new. Nothing has changed. The measures currently in place have never been sufficient for these type of threats and so have been overly invasive while not solving for anything real. If anything, it has introduced new security risks by introducing false confidence despite extremely poor performance of the AIT machines.
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Old May 1, 2012, 2:56 am
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Originally Posted by GeneralAviation
Sawyer also claimed the TSA was going to investigate "recent surgical scars" on passengers. Just great.
Having knee replacement surgery later this year. Not looking forward to the inevitable "recent surgery scar" investigation. How ridiculous, you can't even have surgery anymore. Scars mean : You must be a terrorist!!! No water bottles, no liquids, no surgery. Or like the security guy at MAD at my US flight to the U.S. statet : You're walking with a cane, but you didn't have surgery? Qualified me for SSSS. Crazy world getting crazier by the minute.
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What a nice future we have to look forward to, maybe everyone will fly naked and handcuffed to the seats, and have mandatory 7-day isolation with controlled diet and medical monitoring before boarding the flight from New York to Boston.
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What a nice future we have to look forward to, maybe everyone will fly naked and handcuffed to the seats, and have mandatory 7-day isolation with controlled diet and medical monitoring before boarding the flight from New York to Boston.
And heaven forbid you nicked yourself while wet shaving and/or wear a bandaid on your finger. That will require secondary screening and special nterrogation in a private room with a good chance of not "flying today".
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