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RatherBeOnATrain Mar 13, 2012 1:43 pm

Orlando-Sanford (SFB) files paperwork to replace TSA with private screeners!
 
WESH has the news:

WESH:
TSA Screeners Could Be Replaced At Local Airport
Airport Considers Hiring Private Screeners

POSTED: 12:39 pm EDT March 13, 2012
UPDATED: 12:55 pm EDT March 13, 2012


A short quote:
Orlando-Sanford International Airport announced on Tuesday that the airport has filed paperwork to drop TSA screeners and hire private security screeners.

U.S. Rep. John Mica, who chairs the House transportation committee, was on hand for the announcement and to explain changes in aviation law.

RatherBeOnATrain Mar 13, 2012 1:50 pm

Here's the Orland Sentinel article, by Dan Tracy, that the television station probably got its story from:

Orlando Sentinel:
Sanford airport will try again to kick out TSA

3:25 p.m. EDT, March 13, 2012


A short quote:
SANFORD — Orlando Sanford International Airport officials have restarted a push to hire private security forces, relying this time on a new law championed by U.S. Rep. John Mica, R-Winter Park.

Replacing federal Transportation Security Administration workers with contract employees would result in a more "customer friendly" operation, airport president Larry Dale said at a Tuesday news conference.

But he could not say if a switch would result in lower costs because he has not seen any financial proposals from the three companies the airport has on a short list for the work.

Dale originally tried to boot TSA almost two years ago, but the agency rejected his request.

OrlandoFlyer Mar 15, 2012 11:41 am

Now if only big brother, Orlando International Airport, would follow the same path as it's little brother, Sandford International Airport in regards to booting out the TSA. ^^^

tkey75 Mar 15, 2012 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by OrlandoFlyer (Post 18206731)
Now if only big brother, Orlando International Airport, would follow the same path as it's little brother, Sandford International Airport in regards to booting out the TSA. ^^^

Or maybe more airlines will move into SFB. If only I didn't have to connect in Iceland, it'd become my preferred airport, though you can credit FI to AS. ;)

dimramon Mar 15, 2012 7:59 pm

I understand getting rid of the TSA.
However, does replacing them with private screeners do any good? They will still have to enforce the same idiocy.

Pesky Monkey Mar 15, 2012 9:50 pm


Originally Posted by dimramon (Post 18209515)
I understand getting rid of the TSA.
However, does replacing them with private screeners do any good? They will still have to enforce the same idiocy.

They only positive I can see is that they'd be less likely to pull the "I'm a Federal Officer®, do you want to fly today?" card. But you're right, it's still the same idiocy.

N830MH Mar 18, 2012 12:58 pm

Sanford airport will try again to kick out TSA
 
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,7371145.story

SFB wants to kick TSA out of the airports for second time. Why they want to remove TSA from SFB?

Circumknowitall Mar 18, 2012 1:24 pm


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 18224680)
Why they want to remove TSA from SFB?

From the article:

Replacing federal Transportation Security Administration workers with contract employees would result in a more "customer friendly" operation

I wish them good luck with this ^

greentips Mar 18, 2012 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 18224680)
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,7371145.story

SFB wants to kick TSA out of the airports for second time. Why they want to remove TSA from SFB?

I think it might be because they think they will have far greater control over the rogues, will be able to control the level of politeness, level of quality, and level of integrity of the screeners. This is as it should be, but is not with the TSA.

Reading the article, Congressman Mica is right on point with his opinion that the TSA should get out of the Human Resources business and be about its original mission of determining appropriate and necessary security regulations and requirements, rather than doing that, then doing an incompetent job of implementing dumb ideas.

Consider this:
The FAA, in its original incarnation was the Civil Aeronautics Board, which was responsible of airline oversight aviation safety. It provided a regulatory agency which was empowered to issue regulations, enforce them, and to provide/assist with infrastructure development which has made the US Aviation system a role model and the envy of the world in terms of efficiency, cost-effectiveness and general all around usefulness. Pray we don't lose it, although we are on the verge of losing it given some of the proposals coming from the East.

The CAB/FAA was never thought to be the entire workforce of the aviation industry, but rather a regulatory agency, similar to what Rep. Mica states (and I believed to be true then) the TSA was supposed to be.

To show the depth of stupidity of the current model, compare what might have happened if Roosevelt had taken the TSA model for the CAB:
The CAB/FAA would issue regulations for airlines to meet, hire regulators and inspectors to enforce those regulations. (So far, so good).
The CAB/FAA would set standards for aircraft, pilots, controllers, mechanics and hire inspectors to enforce those standards (so far, so good).

Where it would change, following the present TSA model, is that the CAB would then hire pilots, cabin crew, mechanics, aircraft assemblers, etc. They would work for the CAB, fly, staff and maintain the airplanes for the airlines, at government expense, while the airlines sold tickets, and had no liability of screwing up since the pilots, mechanics, crew were all government employees reporting to a different hierarchy.

This is absurd on its face, but this is precisely what the TSA has become. It is time to end this madness, throw it away and rebuild it from scratch. Getting rid of federal screeners (i.e. TSOs) is the first logical step. Although Mica's rider continues to pay non-federal screeners, control (under TSA supervision) vests with the airport authorities.

Note that this will not necessarily end the problems, but it might bring local (i.e. non-federal) management and accountability to the scene.

Also, Mica's bill only mandates that Pistole "shall consider." It does not mean he won't summarily reject on one or another specious rationale.

T.J. Bender Mar 18, 2012 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by Pesky Monkey (Post 18209998)
They only positive I can see is that they'd be less likely to pull the "I'm a Federal Officer®, do you want to fly today?" card. But you're right, it's still the same idiocy.

Yes, it's ultimately the same idiocy. But a private screener who knows that they can be fired over one incident, as opposed to a TSA screener who is virtually impossible to fire short of breaking the law while on duty, is much more likely to treat you like a human being, and much less likely to hit your "resistance" extra hard for opting-out.

N830MH Mar 18, 2012 9:10 pm


Originally Posted by Circumknowitall (Post 18224809)
From the article:

Replacing federal Transportation Security Administration workers with contract employees would result in a more "customer friendly" operation

I wish them good luck with this ^

I agree. Soon TSA will be gone forever. They won't come back at US Airports anymore. They won't be back again for the life.

4nsicdoc Mar 19, 2012 5:34 am


Originally Posted by tkey75 (Post 18209289)
Or maybe more airlines will move into SFB. If only I didn't have to connect in Iceland, it'd become my preferred airport, though you can credit FI to AS. ;)

Just don't get caught inside the city limits of Sanford with Skittles and ice tea. That is grounds for being murdered in Sanford. Just ask Trayvon Martin. Oh wait, you can't ask him. He was killed for walking with Skittles while black. In Sanford. And the fine citizens of Sanford are such racist pigs that the killer is walking around free. I think I'll stay out of Sanford. And we thought the TSA was bad about pastries or candy. Pikers compared to the Sanford police.


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