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Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
(Post 18027848)
I find IAD to be not only totally unprepared but outright hostile to keeping things in sight. And hostile to the grope - the last one I had the screener was visibly angry at being asked to change gloves. I also had to get vocal and demand a supervisor when they tried to place me out of sight of my belongings.
I don't know what the problem is with IAD TSA, but there is a problem. I wish their FSD would start looking for ways to solve these things, but alas TSA doesn't appear to care about customer service issues. |
Originally Posted by barbell
(Post 18027994)
In this scenario, do they test the gloves for explosives, or do they just do a full-on grope, or a resolution grope, or what?
I've never seen an ETD machine at the exit of a NoS, and I've only ever seen half-hearted rubbing there. It avoids a possible punitive wait for a dedicated groper that you experience at some airports. There's always a groper stationed at the exit of the NoS to immediately resolve any anomalies (or else the line starts backing up). Depending on checkpoint configuration, it can be easier to track your belongings and you're less likely to encounter a TSO who deliberately steps in your line of sight when you say you can't see your belongings from where you are waiting. |
Originally Posted by clrankin
(Post 18028292)
I've tried to avoid IAD in my travels as much as possible. If it tells you anything about how bad TSA is there (bad as in disrespectful, hostile, not following SOP, etc). I live in western Loudoun county and will drive the ~90 minutes to get to DCA rather than take the ~25 minute drive to IAD. In fact, this week I opted to drive to BWI and fly from there, rather than deal with IAD.
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Originally Posted by Superguy
(Post 18028824)
Given BWI's rep for TSA, it must be really bad at IAD if you'd drive that far and would rather put up with them. :eek:
BWI is bad, but IAD is really bad. |
BWI now has a scanner-free checkpoint for A/B gates which serve Southwest airlines and Airtran! It's located downstairs next to the baggage conveyer belts. Ever since it opened, I've been able to fly from BWI without (much) fear of being ogled or sexually abused. It's also usually operating with zero wait time.
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I flew US this time from BWI and had no problem going through the checkpoint last Monday. I don't even think the cancertrons were up and running then.
Coming back from DFW on Thursday, I took a short walk to the DL gates at Terminal E and found a pervert-o-vision free checkpoint relatively easily. I almost used the checkpoint closer to the US counters there, but when I saw that TSA had an employee just standing there and blocking off the WTMD I decided to go elsewhere. It's amazing that someone actually has a job that just involves standing there and blocking the WTMD... welfare at work, I guess. |
Originally Posted by clrankin
(Post 18039425)
I flew US this time from BWI and had no problem going through the checkpoint last Monday. I don't even think the cancertrons were up and running then.
Coming back from DFW on Thursday, I took a short walk to the DL gates at Terminal E and found a pervert-o-vision free checkpoint relatively easily. I almost used the checkpoint closer to the US counters there, but when I saw that TSA had an employee just standing there and blocking off the WTMD I decided to go elsewhere. It's amazing that someone actually has a job that just involves standing there and blocking the WTMD... welfare at work, I guess. |
Originally Posted by jason8612
(Post 18039480)
I wish my job was so easy
I do not have the ethical and moral weaknesses nor the comfort of overriding Constitutional protections required to to what they do, and if I tried to do so I would find it greatly difficult, if not impossible. |
Originally Posted by clrankin
(Post 18039425)
I flew US this time from BWI and had no problem going through the checkpoint last Monday. I don't even think the cancertrons were up and running then.
Coming back from DFW on Thursday, I took a short walk to the DL gates at Terminal E and found a pervert-o-vision free checkpoint relatively easily. I almost used the checkpoint closer to the US counters there, but when I saw that TSA had an employee just standing there and blocking off the WTMD I decided to go elsewhere. It's amazing that someone actually has a job that just involves standing there and blocking the WTMD... welfare at work, I guess. |
Originally Posted by jason8612
(Post 18011766)
I was flying out of T4 (LX F) and when they escorted me to the security checkpoint, I was waived to the body scanner. I opted out and waited...and waited...and waited until looking at the time and the agent waiting for me, decided I'll go thru the body scanner. I told the TSO that I will decline the opt out and go thru, which I was waived in. Just as I started collecting my bags, another TSO came over and told me that I need a pat down as I opted out. I argued a bit, but got nowhere, which then he proceeded to give me the pat down in slow motion taking a good 10minutes. Of course by this time I was quite angry but they did hold the plane for me (being in F) .
If I declined the opt out and go thru the body scanners am I still subject to a secondary search? |
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