Wow, journalism these days is awful
Feb 8, 12, 3:09 pm
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Wow, journalism these days is awful
http://www.wltz.com/story/16771514/c...ity-checkpoint
Just like many other TSA-related stories, there was no independent research at all, just a TSA press release.
Just like many other TSA-related stories, there was no independent research at all, just a TSA press release.
Today the TSA unveiled a full body scanner that can detect any hidden threats.
Feb 8, 12, 4:04 pm
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What gets me is that if my memory serves me correctly, the Columbus airport is tiny. The old 'airport, hair care and tire center' (thanks Ron White). Never flew out of there (only 90 miles to ATL), but drove past on several occasions. Airport looks so small the TSA agent doubles as the skycap, gate attendant and pushback driver.
Yep - just a press release posted online. No one could be bothered to do any research.
Yep - just a press release posted online. No one could be bothered to do any research.
Feb 9, 12, 7:16 am
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It gets worse.
http://www2.newsvirginian.com/news/2...sa-ar-1674337/
What?!
http://www2.newsvirginian.com/news/2...sa-ar-1674337/
If that’s the case, Paul should be reminded that Richard Reid, a.k.a. the Shoe Bomber, didn’t fit our preconceived profile of a terrorist, either. If the TSA hadn’t discovered a bomb in his shoe, he and the other passengers on the American Airline flight may have been blown out of the air.
Feb 9, 12, 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by saulblum
Instead of questioning the TSA's arbitrary rules, he takes issue with the the fact that someone is complaining about the rules (and the folks at the checkpoint).
No surprise at the attitude. At all.
Feb 9, 12, 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
It says that the author is an "employee of Virginia and a News Virginian Columnist". Assuming that means he is an employee of the State, it's no wonder that he takes a government-can-do-no-wrong approach.
Instead of questioning the TSA's arbitrary rules, he takes issue with the the fact that someone is complaining about the rules (and the folks at the checkpoint).
No surprise at the attitude. At all.
Instead of questioning the TSA's arbitrary rules, he takes issue with the the fact that someone is complaining about the rules (and the folks at the checkpoint).
No surprise at the attitude. At all.
Feb 9, 12, 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by saulblum
Jonathan Hunley
[email protected]
(540) 932-3556
Please be polite and professional when contacting him!
Feb 9, 12, 2:58 pm
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When writing, you might want to point out that not only did the TSA not discover the bomb in Reid's shoe, it wasn't even theoretically possible for it to have done so, as he boarded the flight in France.
Feb 9, 12, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Dovster
When writing, you might want to point out that not only did the TSA not discover the bomb in Reid's shoe, it wasn't even theoretically possible for it to have done so, as he boarded the flight in France.
Feb 9, 12, 3:53 pm
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Dear Mr. Hunley,
May I ask if your newspaper employs a fact checker?
From: http://www2.newsvirginian.com/news/2...sa-ar-1674337/
"If that’s the case, Paul should be reminded that Richard Reid, a.k.a. the Shoe Bomber, didn’t fit our preconceived profile of a terrorist, either. If the TSA hadn’t discovered a bomb in his shoe, he and the other passengers on the American Airline flight may have been blown out of the air."
Richard Reid's "shoe bomb attempt took place in December 2001, the TSA was not formed until 2002.
Richard Reid's boarded a flight from Paris, France to Miami,FL. Last time I checked France was an independent county that has its own airport security and does not utilize the TSA.
Richard Reid's shoe bomb attempt was discovered on the plane by a passenger and an airline attendant, not the TSA.
About the only accurate statement is that that had Richard Reid been able to ignite the C4 it could have damaged the aircraft enough, causing it to crash.
And for the record the TSA has never discovered a terrorist in its10 year plus of self aggrandizing existence.
Perhaps Mr. Graves could be employed else where until he learns to get his facts correct. I hear the TSA is hiring and they like to make things up.
FUTR
May I ask if your newspaper employs a fact checker?
From: http://www2.newsvirginian.com/news/2...sa-ar-1674337/
"If that’s the case, Paul should be reminded that Richard Reid, a.k.a. the Shoe Bomber, didn’t fit our preconceived profile of a terrorist, either. If the TSA hadn’t discovered a bomb in his shoe, he and the other passengers on the American Airline flight may have been blown out of the air."
Richard Reid's "shoe bomb attempt took place in December 2001, the TSA was not formed until 2002.
Richard Reid's boarded a flight from Paris, France to Miami,FL. Last time I checked France was an independent county that has its own airport security and does not utilize the TSA.
Richard Reid's shoe bomb attempt was discovered on the plane by a passenger and an airline attendant, not the TSA.
About the only accurate statement is that that had Richard Reid been able to ignite the C4 it could have damaged the aircraft enough, causing it to crash.
And for the record the TSA has never discovered a terrorist in its10 year plus of self aggrandizing existence.
Perhaps Mr. Graves could be employed else where until he learns to get his facts correct. I hear the TSA is hiring and they like to make things up.
FUTR
Feb 10, 12, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingUnderTheRadar
About the only accurate statement is that that had Richard Reid been able to ignite the C4 it could have damaged the aircraft enough, causing it to crash.
And there was about 100 grams, not 10 ounces as originally reported by some/most media.
Feb 10, 12, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
Not even that. The shoe contained stabilized triacetonetriperoxide (TATP), a highly volatile and explosive compound made from easily attainable chemicals, and pentaerthritol tetranitrate (PETN), an explosive component used in military-grade plastic explosive. The explosive material in C-4 is cyclotrimethylene-trinitramine more commonly known as RDX.
And there was about 100 grams, not 10 ounces as originally reported by some/most media.
And there was about 100 grams, not 10 ounces as originally reported by some/most media.
Feb 10, 12, 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by chollie
100 grams, versus the 4+ pounds that apparently made it through a checkpoint in a bag that was pulled for inspection in Fayetteville.
Feb 10, 12, 5:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Caradoc
Still in clearly-marked block wrappers, too. Easily identifiable, unless one wears a blue shirt and tin badge.
