KY Senator Rand Paul "Detained" by TSA at BNA
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KY Senator Rand Paul "Detained" by TSA at BNA
I quoted "Detained" in the headline because we know TSA is not suppose to detain anyone. Who knows what they did, here's a couple links, apparently he refused a full-body patdown:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71818.html
http://www.wlwt.com/r/30277502/detail.html
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71818.html
http://www.wlwt.com/r/30277502/detail.html
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Sounds like a well orchestrated publicity stunt, everybody ready, set off the scanner, refuse the patdown, coordinated social media posts, etc.
The media really needs to get a handle on what is and is not news, somebody setting off a scanner and refusing a patdown it not news.
The media really needs to get a handle on what is and is not news, somebody setting off a scanner and refusing a patdown it not news.
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But TSA's reactions might be...
Interesting that he was able to make a call. I would have expected TSA to keep him separated from his belongings until this is finally resolved.
Interesting that he was able to make a call. I would have expected TSA to keep him separated from his belongings until this is finally resolved.
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Sounds like a well orchestrated publicity stunt, everybody ready, set off the scanner, refuse the patdown, coordinated social media posts, etc.
The media really needs to get a handle on what is and is not news, somebody setting off a scanner and refusing a patdown it not news.
The media really needs to get a handle on what is and is not news, somebody setting off a scanner and refusing a patdown it not news.
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He apparently asked to be re-scanned.
Anyone know if BNA has BSX or MMW? Seems like if it was the latter, he should have been able to view the screen and see the location of the 'anomaly'.
Anyone know if BNA has BSX or MMW? Seems like if it was the latter, he should have been able to view the screen and see the location of the 'anomaly'.
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From The Tennessean:
But Rand Paul's office claimed Rand Paul set off the full body scanner and then refused a full pat down.
A posting on Ron Paul's Facebook page also claims Rand Paul was detained at Nashville International.
A posting on Ron Paul's Facebook page also claims Rand Paul was detained at Nashville International.
Source:
The Tennessean
Ron Paul's son, Sen. Rand Paul, allegedly detained by TSA in Nashville
9:26 AM, Jan. 23, 2012
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IANAL and I don't know where Sen Paul was headed on this trip (though DC for tomorrow's State of the Union seems likely), but I hope there is a Constitutional issue here too:
Originally Posted by US Constitution Article I section 6
They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the
Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of
their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for
any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other
Place.
Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of
their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for
any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other
Place.
As much as I want Congressmen to suffer from TSA abuses to motivate them to be stopped, I could easily see constructing an argument that Congressmen going to/from DC during sessions should be completely exempt from any sort of screening by TSA.
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ABC News article http://news.yahoo.com/rand-paul-pat-...-abc-news.html says
That seems normal enough. The only reason this is news is that Sen. Paul is in a position to take actions that may eventually affect TSA.
A TSA spokesman disputed that Paul was ever “detained.” But he was not granted access to the secure area of the airport.
The TSA version of events is that Paul was not detained, but triggered an alarm during routine airport screening and refused to complete the screening process (pat-down) in order to resolve the issue. Paul was escorted out of the screening area by local law enforcement.
“When an irregularity is found during the TSA screening process, it must be resolved prior to allowing a passenger to proceed to the secure area of the airport,” according to an official statement released by TSA. “Passengers who refuse to complete the screening process cannot be granted access to the secure area in order to ensure the safety of others traveling.”
The TSA version of events is that Paul was not detained, but triggered an alarm during routine airport screening and refused to complete the screening process (pat-down) in order to resolve the issue. Paul was escorted out of the screening area by local law enforcement.
“When an irregularity is found during the TSA screening process, it must be resolved prior to allowing a passenger to proceed to the secure area of the airport,” according to an official statement released by TSA. “Passengers who refuse to complete the screening process cannot be granted access to the secure area in order to ensure the safety of others traveling.”
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I can just hear the "law and order" types now: 'Well it doesn't matter if you're a senator. I don't care who you are, you're subject to The Law.' .....
Well, see, that's the problem right there. TSA "doesn't care who you are". As a security agency, what they should be most focused on is "who you are" -- no rational system of security can exist absent this primary concern.
Instead, we have a 'security' apparatus focused on cupcakes and colostomy bags.
Maybe the "irregularity" they noticed was a senator with some back-bone...
Well, see, that's the problem right there. TSA "doesn't care who you are". As a security agency, what they should be most focused on is "who you are" -- no rational system of security can exist absent this primary concern.
Instead, we have a 'security' apparatus focused on cupcakes and colostomy bags.
Maybe the "irregularity" they noticed was a senator with some back-bone...
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The story linked to indicates that he was headed to D.C.
If that's correct, what happened was unambiguously a constitutional breach.
Some might argue that he needed to go through the WTMD, but I wouldn't. Nothing could be done even if an alarm was triggered unless there was a clear indication that he was committing a felony. A very clear indication, not just a faint suspicion. He shouldn't be detained longer than briefest period needed to check his identity.
This isn't a theoretical slippery slope argument. That section of the constitution is explicit because of repeated incidents.
If I recall correctly, a U.S. congressman can even refuse a speeding ticket on the way a session. The LEO must follow and present the evidence to the Sergeant at Arms. The ticket will likely be paid or contested as normal, but the threat is censure in the legislative branch not arrest by the executive branch.
In this case if the TSA agent had a problem, they should have escorted the Senator on the undelayed flight to D.C. and taken it up with the Doorkeeper of the Senate. Then a Senate committee could decide if they are going to establish a rule that their members must give up their explicit, constitutionally established privilege to the executive branch. (In D.C., that would be the punchline to a joke.)
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I can just hear the "law and order" types now: 'Well it doesn't matter if you're a senator. I don't care who you are, you're subject to The Law.' .....
Well, see, that's the problem right there. TSA "doesn't care who you are". As a security agency, what they should be most focused on is "who you are" -- no rational system of security can exist absent this primary concern.
Instead, we have a 'security' apparatus focused on cupcakes and colostomy bags.
Maybe the "irregularity" they noticed was a senator with some back-bone...
Well, see, that's the problem right there. TSA "doesn't care who you are". As a security agency, what they should be most focused on is "who you are" -- no rational system of security can exist absent this primary concern.
Instead, we have a 'security' apparatus focused on cupcakes and colostomy bags.
Maybe the "irregularity" they noticed was a senator with some back-bone...
Seems TSA is in violation of the Constitution in this case.