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goalie Dec 23, 2011 11:57 am

TSA now has a toll free helpline for travelers with disabilities and medical needs
 
http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2011/1222.shtm


The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) announced the launch of TSA Cares today, a new helpline number designed to assist travelers with disabilities and medical conditions, prior to getting to the airport. Travelers may call TSA Cares toll free at 1-855-787-2227 prior to traveling with questions about screening policies, procedures and what to expect at the security checkpoint......

...When a passenger with a disability or medical condition calls TSA Cares, a representative will provide assistance, either with information about screening that is relevant to the passenger’s specific disability or medical condition, or the passenger may be referred to disability experts at TSA. TSA recommends that passengers call approximately 72 hours ahead of travel so that TSA Cares has the opportunity to coordinate checkpoint support with a TSA Customer Service Manager located at the airport when necessary....
So what pray tell is a "disability expert"?


...All travelers may ask to speak to a TSA supervisor if questions about screening procedures arise while at the security checkpoint....
Which still means that a pax could be subject to a TSO potentially* practicing medicine without a license :rolleyes:


*I say "potentially" as their may be (n.b. may be) a TSO out there who is also an MD ;)

Michael El Dec 23, 2011 12:02 pm

Now Pistole can tell Congress he's proactive and takes assaults by his clerks serious.

jkhuggins Dec 23, 2011 12:37 pm


Originally Posted by Michael El (Post 17681731)
Now Pistole can tell Congress he's proactive and takes assaults by his clerks serious.

Or simply blame passengers with disabilities for their own problems at screening if they didn't call the magic hotline ahead of time ...

mikeef Dec 23, 2011 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by jkhuggins (Post 17681941)
Or simply blame passengers with disabilities for their own problems at screening if they didn't call the magic hotline ahead of time ...

Unfortunately, this is the most likely outcome. Those who don't travel often are unlikely to know that this line exists, meaning that they will get to the airport and run into the same issues.

While I applaud the fact that they are willing to discuss the issues ahead of time with the airport itself, I'm dubious about whether it will do any good.

Mike

tanja Dec 23, 2011 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 17681992)
Unfortunately, this is the most likely outcome. Those who don't travel often are unlikely to know that this line exists, meaning that they will get to the airport and run into the same issues.

While I applaud the fact that they are willing to discuss the issues ahead of time with the airport itself, I'm dubious about whether it will do any good.

Mike

It might help some. All depending the disability and the TSO screener at the airport.
It will not help a person with memory loss. And not people who doesnt have a computer.

My mom doesnt have a computer at all.

tanja Dec 23, 2011 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 17681696)
http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2011/1222.shtm



So what pray tell is a "disability expert"?

Which still means that a pax could be subject to a TSO potentially* practicing medicine without a license :rolleyes:


*I say "potentially" as their may be (n.b. may be) a TSO out there who is also an MD ;)

Somehow I dont trust this at all. Hope I am wrong.

Rondall Dec 23, 2011 2:56 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 17681696)
http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2011/1222.shtm



So what pray tell is a "disability expert"?

My guess is someone as competent as those who are trained to detect micro-expressions. (BDO's)

doober Dec 23, 2011 6:40 pm

Nadine Hays allegedly called the TSA prior to arriving at the airport with her mother and her mother's applesauce. We all know how that turned out.

RadioGirl Dec 23, 2011 9:40 pm


Originally Posted by jkhuggins (Post 17681941)
Or simply blame passengers with disabilities for their own problems at screening if they didn't call the magic hotline ahead of time ...

Or claim that the passenger misunderstood what the hotline told them. Or that the hotline person was wrong. Or that the policy has changed since yesterday. Or that they don't do it that way at airport XXX. Or...

cordelli Dec 23, 2011 10:01 pm

So if the old ladies called the hotline they would have been told they would not be strip searched, because the TSA doesn't strip search people.

Yet when they got to Kennedy, they would have been strip searched.

Yeah, that's helpful.

Ari Dec 24, 2011 1:17 am

'TSA Cares' is a terrible name for the line-- it is extremely patronizing and doesn't describe the service the line is supposed to provide. But the dumb choice of name comes as no shock.

This whole state of affairs is sad-- that we need a phone number for a disabled person to call before going to the airport so that the airport workers can be told in advance to treat the person with dignity.

gsoltso Dec 24, 2011 5:04 am

Actually, if used correctly, this is a step forward. If we can get follow through on the information (as I read it, they call the hotline, speak to someone, and if special needs are in play, they contact the airport directly to coordinate), and get those in this chain of information to do what they are supposed to do, it stands a chance of helping a great many passengers that have a disability. I would love to be the local contact point for things like this, it would give me the chance to interface with the STSOs and TSMs at the checkpoints to make certain they are able to preplan for specific situations, as well as making certain that there is a better awareness in general of how to better assist passengers with disabilities. I would actually like to see someone designated at each airport to be a POC for passengers with disabilities. Take that person, train them, have them make contact with the same groups that help TSA to make policy, and develop better programs to teach the TSOs how to help more in the process, instead of simply focusing on getting the screening done (which seems to be the case in many of the complaints I have heard). I have always found that simply asking a person what we can do to help first, then beginning to explain what screening needs to be done has almost always resulted in better communication. I like it, and if it is utilized in the spirit it has been developed, I think it can be a great step forward towards helping our passengers.

doober Dec 24, 2011 5:20 am

Those are all very big IFs, West. And it would mean that the TSA would have to be <drum roll, please>, CONSISTENT.

InkUnderNails Dec 24, 2011 5:45 am


Originally Posted by gsoltso (Post 17684734)
Actually, if used correctly, this is a step forward. If we can get follow through on the information (as I read it, they call the hotline, speak to someone, and if special needs are in play, they contact the airport directly to coordinate), and get those in this chain of information to do what they are supposed to do, it stands a chance of helping a great many passengers that have a disability. I would love to be the local contact point for things like this, it would give me the chance to interface with the STSOs and TSMs at the checkpoints to make certain they are able to preplan for specific situations, as well as making certain that there is a better awareness in general of how to better assist passengers with disabilities. I would actually like to see someone designated at each airport to be a POC for passengers with disabilities. Take that person, train them, have them make contact with the same groups that help TSA to make policy, and develop better programs to teach the TSOs how to help more in the process, instead of simply focusing on getting the screening done (which seems to be the case in many of the complaints I have heard). I have always found that simply asking a person what we can do to help first, then beginning to explain what screening needs to be done has almost always resulted in better communication. I like it, and if it is utilized in the spirit it has been developed, I think it can be a great step forward towards helping our passengers.

There will be those, like yourself, that see the value in this and would try to make it work in their airport. Kudos to you and the others that make it work correctly.

Nonetheless, the people on this forum have some really good ideas about what the TSA could do, we discuss specific things they should do, we speculate about what they would do in certain situations, but it in the end it is the things they actually do that generate the most conversation.

gsoltso Dec 24, 2011 6:33 am


Originally Posted by InkUnderNails (Post 17684831)
There will be those, like yourself, that see the value in this and would try to make it work in their airport. Kudos to you and the others that make it work correctly.

Nonetheless, the people on this forum have some really good ideas about what the TSA could do, we discuss specific things they should do, we speculate about what they would do in certain situations, but it in the end it is the things they actually do that generate the most conversation.

I can find no fault in what you say, it is all true. Most of the conversation here is generated by someone doing the wrong thing, or doing the right thing the wrong way. There is also a lot of disagreement over policy, but the vast majority of discussion is over interactions between TSA personnel and passengers. This is an opportunity to have an impact not only on a specific subset of passengers, but on the TSOs themselves. If you use this system and it becomes a repetitive action (oh god, here comes West AGAIN!), then the TSOs begin to adjust how they do things in general - in a sense, this is a chance to reinforce "good" behavior. If I have worked with a group, and I know they are pretty good at what they do, then most situations can be handled with a simple discussion with the STSO and voila, as stress-free of a situation as we can make for that passenger. Conversely, if I have worked with a group and I am not truly happy with how they are treating the specific subset of passengers (and by extension, ALL passengers), then I have some recourse with mangement to help encourage "good" behavior. If this is done the right way, it can have a lasting impact on the workforce in general, and can even generate better passenger treatment across the board. All positive change has to start somewhere, and this is a good opportunity for TSA as a whole.


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