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Love_Travel Dec 15, 2011 10:31 pm

positive experience at IAH pat down
 
Coming in to IAH. I opted out. Immediately I was asked to sit in a chair. Lady there assures me some one will be there soon. With in a minute, I was asked to move to a place . A TSA gentlemen carry all my bag to the place where I will patted down so that i can watch it.

An young TSA, had new gloves, explain the procedure and starts pat down. he informs me, before going near sensitive areas. But very thorough and professional. Every thing is over in couple of minutes. Very friendly and outstanding courtesy. I complemented the supervisor as well as fill in the card.

Well trained TSA staff. I have been traveling every week for the past 2 months to IAH and i find TSA staff excellent. Any one have similar experiences at IAH?

Wimpie Dec 15, 2011 10:39 pm

I love to travel as well.

However there is NO SUCH THING as a "Pleasent experience at IAH pat down"
How about a "Pleasent experience at Walmart pat down"?
How about a "Pleasent experience at Bus station pat down"?
How about a "Pleasent experience walking down the street pat down"?

I am about to barf!
Seig Heil to TSA.

(PS Learn to spell Pleasant)

lyric1863 Dec 15, 2011 10:39 pm


Originally Posted by Love_Travel (Post 17636476)
Coming in to IAH. I opted out. Immediately I was asked to sit in a chair. Lady there assures me some one will be there soon. With in a minute, I was asked to move to a place . A TSA gentlemen carry all my bag to the place where I will patted down so that i can watch it.

An young TSA, had new gloves, explain the procedure and starts pat down. he informs me, before touching near sensitive areas. But very thorough and professional. Every thing is over in couple of minutes. Very friendly and outstanding courtesy. I complemented the supervisor as well as fill in the card.

Well trained TSA staff. I have been traveling every week for the past 2 months to IAH and i find TSA staff excellent. Any one have similar experiences at IAH?

I just feel sad that someone touching "near sensitive areas" is pleasant. I don't find anytime that strangers are near my sensitive areas pleasant regardless how courteous they are.

Love_Travel Dec 15, 2011 10:47 pm

what I meant was a positive experience and absence of harassment. I changed the wordings to keep those who look at language rather than the content happy

Letitride3c Dec 15, 2011 11:29 pm


Originally Posted by Love_Travel (Post 17636476)
Every thing is over in couple of minutes. I have been traveling every week for the past 2 months to IAH ....

For real, OMG, I'm speechless and you experience this coming to IAH .... it lasted a couple of minutes. Whatever.

Global_Hi_Flyer Dec 16, 2011 7:21 am

Is "Pleasent Experience" the same as "happy ending"? :D

SirFlysALot Dec 16, 2011 8:34 am

The few times I had to go to IAH last year were not particularly bad. In fact I was able to watch them actually be helpful. A young lady forgot an item at the checkpoint, came back and they helped her search for it at the other checkpoints as she did not remember where exactly she had gone though.

The lines are stupid long though.

Rondall Dec 16, 2011 10:48 am

It's nice you can have a pleasant experience while your civil rights are being violated.

Love_Travel Dec 16, 2011 7:54 pm

Do you ever think about the people who lost their life in 911 attack because of lack of security?

Fredd Dec 16, 2011 8:13 pm


Originally Posted by Love_Travel (Post 17642258)
Do you ever think about the people who lost their life in 911 attack because of lack of security?

I often reflect on the fact that passengers and crews on those September 11 flights followed the government guidelines then in place. As is stated in this linked government document published in late November 2001, "As of this writing, the U.S. Government has not developed new guidelines for how to react to a hijacking."

It was only the passengers on UA #93 who, after learning about the other hijackings, formed their own little militia, and thereby probably prevented the loss of many more lives.

Does anybody else ever think about that?

Rondall Dec 16, 2011 8:24 pm

Welcome to FT, Love_Travel. I assume you are asking me. My answer to your question is, in a word, yes. Though I do not believe it can be blamed entirely on a lack of security. Those terrorists found a way around the security that did exist on 9/11. As I understand, a repeat of that is not likely, due to the fact that cabin doors are now armored and locked during flight and because passengers are more willing to fight back. I do not, however, believe in "anything for security". What we have now is security theater, that most likely is in violation of at least the fourth amendment.

I encourage you to read the threads on this forum. You will gain a better understanding of what goes on at the airport checkpoint.
Here is one to get you started.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/check...port-nydn.html

Michael El Dec 16, 2011 9:56 pm


Originally Posted by Love_Travel (Post 17642258)
Do you ever think about the people who lost their life in 911 attack because of lack of security?

Not flaming but just pointing out this is the mentality of most Americans. They are willing to give up their rights for a sense of security.

Letitride3c Dec 16, 2011 11:34 pm

Memo to TSA, opted out candidate available for TSA "Passenger Advocate" positions as endorsed by the senior N.Y. Senator & others, willing & able to serve and demonstrate the pleasent experience first hand. :rolleyes:

On OP's followup comment - yes, but, I do not need to think about it. An ex-coworker has yet to be "found" and confirmed via DNA .... Personally, I get periodic and regular reminders from the WTC Health Registry (over the past 10 years) as we're among the 10's of thousands that worked in Lower Manhattan that morning & lived thru the collapsed towers nearby.

Perhaps you're too young then to recall the earlier incident on Feb. 26, 1993 where 7 lives were lost and thousands injuried - the bad guys drove a loaded Ryder truck, they didn't fly at all. (Next up - checkpoints, x-rays, etc. & pat-downs at the parking garage :confused: :eek: :mad: )

Let's agree to disagree: the current random screening show of security by blue shirt clerks with a metal badge and disputed "officer" title is an illusion, especially when TSA is NOT focused on WEI and instead on a wild shadow chase, void of all checks & balances - common sense logics & Constitutionality aside.

IslandBased Dec 17, 2011 6:23 am

I view this as the current result of a long running turf war between the two extreme ends of humanity, with the rest of us caught in the fallout. It is probably linked to generations of bad parenting and poor role models. I'd be much happier if they would just seek some therapy. Otherwise, perhaps they all should be banished to a small atoll somewhere (one preferably under water at high tide) where they could work out their differences without bothering the rest of us.

Global_Hi_Flyer Dec 17, 2011 10:13 am


Originally Posted by Love_Travel (Post 17642258)
Do you ever think about the people who lost their life in 911 attack because of lack of security?

I knew a couple of the folks that lost their lives in 9/11. They would have been appalled at the wholesale assault by the government on rights and freedoms in this country since.

Do you even know that the objects used for the 9/11 attacks were PERMITTED items under the rules at the time? Or that standard procedure - as approved by the Federal government - was to cooperate with hijackers? Both were standard security procedures at the time.


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