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rjacket Sep 27, 2011 5:02 pm

Unintended consequences of strict security (Wikipedia)
 
I never thought of the whole uproar with the TSA in this way before. Wouldn't it be interesting if it were reported this way in the media:

Two studies by a group of Cornell University researchers have found that strict airport security has the unintended consequence of increasing road fatalities, as would-be air travelers decide to drive and are exposed to the far greater risk of dying in a car accident.[84][85]

In 2005, the researchers looked at the immediate aftermath of the attacks of September 11, 2001, and found that the change in passenger travel modes led to 242 added driving deaths per month.[84] In all, they estimated that about 1,200 driving deaths could be attributed to the short-term effects of the attacks. The study attributes the change in traveler behavior to two factors: fear of terrorist attacks and the wish to avoid the inconvenience of strict security measures; no attempt is made to estimate separately the influence of each of these two factors.

In 2007, the researchers studied specifically the effects of a change to security practices instituted by the TSA in late 2002. They concluded that this change reduced the number of air travelers by 6%, and estimated that consequently, 129 more people died in car accidents in the fourth quarter of 2002.[85] Extrapolating this rate of fatalities, New York Times contributor Nate Silver remarked that this is equivalent to "four fully loaded Boeing 737s crashing each year."[86]

The 2007 study also noted that strict airport security hurts the airline industry; it was estimated that the 6% reduction in the number of passengers in the fourth quarter of 2002 cost the industry $1.1 billion in lost business.

Jenbel Sep 27, 2011 5:49 pm

I'll move this over to the TSS forum

Jenbel
Co-moderator, Communitybuzz!

MAMOHT Sep 27, 2011 8:01 pm

Well, I guess according to Pistole, we are now about 6% safer. Now he needs to fight the other 94% to make it completely safe.

lovexylitol Sep 27, 2011 8:16 pm


Moreover, these
surveys support TSA claims that the security measures implemented since 9/11 have increased
passengers’ confidence in the safety of air travel, which may result in greater demand for air
travel
Sad sad reality. :(

N830MH Sep 27, 2011 10:26 pm


Originally Posted by lovexylitol (Post 17184496)
Sad sad reality. :(

Yes, unfortunately for all the families who lost the car accident. I am very disappointed the news to hear.

eturowski Sep 28, 2011 5:32 am

I wonder how many people are killed in car accidents as they speed or drive distractedly to the airport because they are worried it will take them an hour to get through the TSA checkpoint.

doober Sep 28, 2011 6:26 am

IOW, the TSA kills at least 520 people per year.

mahohmei Sep 28, 2011 7:49 am

That shouldn't be "Unintended consequences of strict security". It should be "Unintended consequences of the TSA's antics", which are in no way related to strict security.

mpattdu Sep 28, 2011 9:15 am

I wonder if they are going to continue the study now that the grope is in effect.

mikeef Sep 28, 2011 11:36 am

Personally, I'd like to see a study on how many weapons they miss because of the liquid policy-if you're distracted by shampoo, you may miss the gun.

Mike

chollie Sep 28, 2011 11:42 am


Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 17187737)
Personally, I'd like to see a study on how many weapons they miss because of the liquid policy-if you're distracted by shampoo, you may miss the gun.

Mike

^

Don't know if you're joking or not, but I suspect this is true.

N830MH Sep 28, 2011 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by doober (Post 17186104)
IOW, the TSA kills at least 520 people per year.

Wow. That is lots of those people who being killed during car accident. No one who responsible for that.

MaximumSisu Sep 28, 2011 12:42 pm


Originally Posted by doober (Post 17186104)
IOW, the TSA kills at least 520 people per year.

Or in other words, since 9/11/2001, the TSA has killed more Americans than terrorists ever did.

rjacket Sep 28, 2011 4:31 pm


Originally Posted by eturowski (Post 17185970)
I wonder how many people are killed in car accidents as they speed or drive distractedly to the airport because they are worried it will take them an hour to get through the TSA checkpoint.

Yes when I started reading the section, I thought it was going to be about things such as lost time, stress, that cost / productivity lost of missing flights, longer travel time, not the fact that ~5000 people have died since 9/11 (in America) due to our response to it.

barbell Sep 28, 2011 4:34 pm


Originally Posted by rjacket (Post 17189240)
...the fact that ~5000 people have died since 9/11 (in America) due to our response to it.

Well, you know what they say, "Anything for safety". :confused:


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