Originally Posted by BamaDude
(Post 16982799)
AA- 22" x 14" x 9"
http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...false&from=Nav CO- 14" x 9" x 22" http://www.continental.com/CMS/en-US...D28C49E6270D96 DL- 22" x 14" x 9" http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...ryon/index.jsp UA- 22" x 14" x 9" http://www.united.com/page/middlepag...ggage_policies US- 14" x 9" x 22" http://www.usairways.com/en-US/trave...epolicies.html WN- 10" x 16" x 24" http://www.southwest.com/html/custom...-bags-pol.html Interesting. I didn't know that Southwest allowed slightly larger carry-on bags than the other major airlines. I was ready to argue in favor of a standardized sizer on the entrance of the baggage x-ray machines, but Southwest allowing larger bags sort of shoots my argument in the foot. http://help.jetblue.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN...e=obj%28633%29 B6 is the most generous of all. |
Originally Posted by jkhuggins
(Post 16976470)
Eliminate (some) check bag fees. Improve issues related to the delivery of checked bags. Use sizers more consistently at the gate itself, in order to train passengers as to what size bags are really allowed.
For example, I have a "legal size" roll-a-board and you have to fight with it to get it in the sizers with the metal bars. The other sizers that look more like a box, carry-on goes in no problems - perfect fit. Typically goes into the overhead, wheels first, on mainline aircraft without problem. The only aircraft that gets tricky are DL 767-300's with the old overhead bins and a few odd 757's (ex-NW 5500 series) where there is a lip that causes problems. Carriers vary significantly as to what they'll take as carry-on's. Qantas, for example, has a strict weight limit. Qantas will sometimes ask to see the carry-on and to weigh it. At some airports like MEL, you have an "oversize" / "overweight" bag inspector sitting at the entrance to the Intl terminal. To close, this is not a duty the TSA should take on; private business needs to handle this one. On final note, there are differences among carriers with respect to carry-on size -- no one rule fits all. |
Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler
(Post 16984398)
To close, this is not a duty the TSA should take on; private business needs to handle this one. On final note, there are differences among carriers with respect to carry-on size -- no one rule fits all.
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Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
(Post 16984238)
B6 - 26" x 18" x 12" for the A320, 24 x 16 x 10 for the E190
http://help.jetblue.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN...e=obj%28633%29 B6 is the most generous of all. |
Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
(Post 16984238)
B6 - 26" x 18" x 12" for the A320, 24 x 16 x 10 for the E190
http://help.jetblue.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN...e=obj%28633%29 B6 is the most generous of all. Back to the TSA, I wonder how many more things they would miss if they had the added responsibility of checking bag sizes. They seem to miss a lot already in their effort to keep bottles of water off of planes. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 16984529)
All good reason for consistency. FAA should invite the carriers to propose a joint policy and then impose one which is the best for most. Needless to say, the RJ gate-check issue is entirely sepatate and apart from mainline. There will always be a need to do gate check on luggage which otherwise fits the sizer (which would then be uniform).
After all, this is one competitive factor that folks might use to select an airline. Taking your argument to the next step, we ought to reinstate the old CAR-style regulations. You know, government-regulated fares, regulation of number of seats on a route, mandatory service to small communities as a condition of the operating certificate, and the like. :rolleyes::rolleyes: As long as there is no safety issue (bags fit in the overhead) then the Feds have no business getting involved. None. It's a competitive issue for the airlines. I can't figure out from your posts if you're anti-competition, if you just favor draconian policies of the big airlines & want the lower-cost carriers to fail, or you're simply the kind of guy that gets in the left lane of the beltway and drives 50 MPH because the speed limit is 55. :rolleyes: |
To the point of one size does not fit all, we can add all AC overheads are not created equal. Today I was on a CRJ, and the roller-boards had to be sideways. This limits the number that can fit. Today I only saw one person with 3 bags and he made it on. What really amused me was a person trying to get a bag that was too large into the overhead. Her solution was the overheads in the back must be larger. Finally, they had to check the bag, which was the right move.
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Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 16984529)
All good reason for consistency. FAA should invite the carriers to propose a joint policy and then impose one which is the best for most.
Originally Posted by swanscn
(Post 16983505)
Why does anyone pay attention to this man?
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Originally Posted by TSO1973
(Post 16982669)
Originally Posted by goalie
(Post 16978223)
Just what we need :rolleyes: :td: :mad:
So what say our resident TSO's on this? My two hockey pucks say you would not be happy ;) |
Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
(Post 16984805)
So you're against competition?
After all, this is one competitive factor that folks might use to select an airline. Taking your argument to the next step, we ought to reinstate the old CAR-style regulations. You know, government-regulated fares, regulation of number of seats on a route, mandatory service to small communities as a condition of the operating certificate, and the like. :rolleyes::rolleyes: As long as there is no safety issue (bags fit in the overhead) then the Feds have no business getting involved. None. It's a competitive issue for the airlines. I can't figure out from your posts if you're anti-competition, if you just favor draconian policies of the big airlines & want the lower-cost carriers to fail, or you're simply the kind of guy that gets in the left lane of the beltway and drives 50 MPH because the speed limit is 55. :rolleyes: There are two "barriers" to boarding a commercial aircraft: 1) security checkpoint; and 2) gate. #2 is far preferable place and allows flexibility but carriers can't/won't enforce. That leaves #1 which is not preferable for a broad variety of reasons, but can be accomplished. It's easy and it will work. If the carriers want to do it themselves, I'm fine with that, but let's see them do it. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 16985955)
I favor simple solutions to big problems. OH abuse is largely the product of borish DYKWIA's who full well know what they are doing. The practice makes boarding unpleasant and slow and delays push.
A passenger with too many oversized carry-on items may be a PITA, but he's not a security threat. |
Originally Posted by 14940674
(Post 16977488)
Doesn't BAA enforce carry-on rules at security at LHR? Since they manage to do that without extreme disruption, the TSA should presumably adopt the same approach. If I am missing something here, please correct me.
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Originally Posted by chollie
(Post 16978410)
Don't you think 'specially coded' gate-checked over-sized bags' should also get special handling fees? After all, it's going to require more work for baggage handlers, and a baggage handler who's toting 'speciallly coded' bags to a baggage office is a baggage handler who is not off-loading my bags.
Nobody seems to have mentioned yet that defining carry-on sizes in terms of inches will confuse the all-but-2 other countries in the world that use the metric system. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 16985955)
I favor simple solutions to big problems. OH abuse is largely the product of borish DYKWIA's who full well know what they are doing. The practice makes boarding unpleasant and slow and delays push. As one who generally travels in F, I would just as soon board last, but have to board first to get the OH space which handles by compliant carry-on.
There are two "barriers" to boarding a commercial aircraft: 1) security checkpoint; and 2) gate. #2 is far preferable place and allows flexibility but carriers can't/won't enforce. That leaves #1 which is not preferable for a broad variety of reasons, but can be accomplished. It's easy and it will work. If the carriers want to do it themselves, I'm fine with that, but let's see them do it. |
Originally Posted by stifle
(Post 16986140)
Nobody seems to have mentioned yet that defining carry-on sizes in terms of inches will confuse the all-but-2 other countries in the world that use the metric system.
The other key point is that a 2-dimensional sizer template only measures (duh) two of three dimensions of a bag; it could be 14" x 9" x [anything] and fit an AA template. ;) I probably don't need to say this, but for the record I'm against TSA taking on yet another responsibility that has nothing to do with security. |
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