Taser found in seatback pocket of JetBlue plane at EWR
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Taser found in seatback pocket of JetBlue plane at EWR
The news is reporting that cleaners on Friday found a stun gun on the plane that was used for flight 1179 from Boston to Newark. They notified the TSA, who turned it over to the FBI.
They had all the usual questions, how did it get there, was it a dry run, is the person still flying, how did they clear security, why did they leave it, etc.
http://www.wpix.com/videobeta/d78273...e-Newark-Plane
for one video, it has not yet hit the usual news sites.
Can't wait for the blog post on this one (assuming they can go back and identify the passenger from the seat area) about how they watched the video blah blah.
They had all the usual questions, how did it get there, was it a dry run, is the person still flying, how did they clear security, why did they leave it, etc.
http://www.wpix.com/videobeta/d78273...e-Newark-Plane
for one video, it has not yet hit the usual news sites.
Can't wait for the blog post on this one (assuming they can go back and identify the passenger from the seat area) about how they watched the video blah blah.
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I'm conflicted on this. Part of me wants to rail against the TSA's incompetence; part of me wants to ask: "Why should I care that someone has a stun gun on a plane?"
Of course, the real issue is why they took it out of their baggage and then left it in the seat pocket - sounds to me like someone was just taunting the TSA.
Of course, the real issue is why they took it out of their baggage and then left it in the seat pocket - sounds to me like someone was just taunting the TSA.
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The fact that it was cleared so quickly (30 minutes is record time for TSA to do anything), seems to indicate the person/situation was pretty quickly identified one way or the other.
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As a computer security person I'm always thinking about security as I fly (which is way too much). I normally don't post because I don't want any government agents busting down my door. But this made me realize: a taser is just electronics. I think it would be very easy to make a taser that looked like something else (cell phone, headphones, etc).
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Suggesting a "dry run" is laughable. If you successfully perform a dry run, you don't advertise it. I don't know what FAMs pack, but it could as easily as been a forgetful one.
The fact that it was cleared so quickly (30 minutes is record time for TSA to do anything), seems to indicate the person/situation was pretty quickly identified one way or the other.
The fact that it was cleared so quickly (30 minutes is record time for TSA to do anything), seems to indicate the person/situation was pretty quickly identified one way or the other.
Or TSA was being tested and failed to find the taser during the security check, and that is how they manage to clear it so quickly. Because the person who managed to get it past them was one of those people they knew was testing them so they knew the taser was going to be on the plane.
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A taser also has gas-propelled darts connected by long wires. An ordinary stun-gun would be easier to disguise, but the output of commercial stun-guns is too low to be effective.
...but, as another poster said, why ban stun-guns? Is there really a threat of air pirates armed with stun-guns?? The passengers and crew wouldn't even need to find handcuffs... we could just laugh them back into their seats.
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...but, as another poster said, why ban stun-guns? Is there really a threat of air pirates armed with stun-guns?? The passengers and crew wouldn't even need to find handcuffs... we could just laugh them back into their seats.
As a computer security person I'm always thinking about security as I fly (which is way too much). I normally don't post because I don't want any government agents busting down my door. But this made me realize: a taser is just electronics. I think it would be very easy to make a taser that looked like something else (cell phone, headphones, etc).
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A taser also has gas-propelled darts connected by long wires. An ordinary stun-gun would be easier to disguise, but the output of commercial stun-guns is too low to be effective.
...but, as another poster said, why ban stun-guns? Is there really a threat of air pirates armed with stun-guns?? The passengers and crew wouldn't even need to find handcuffs... we could just laugh them back into their seats.
--Jon
...but, as another poster said, why ban stun-guns? Is there really a threat of air pirates armed with stun-guns?? The passengers and crew wouldn't even need to find handcuffs... we could just laugh them back into their seats.
--Jon
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While I wouldn't want to get zapped with one, this really isn't that much of a risk to the flight. I wonder if the person who brought it on the plane didn't realize that they brought it with them. Then they found it while the plane was in the air and tried to get rid of it by putting it in the seatback.
I wonder how the TSA will spin this one. The guy with the day old boaring pass and invalid id was screened and posed no threat per the TSA blog. This person brought a weapon on the plane, although we know that a stun gun wouldn't take down a plane.
I wonder how the TSA will spin this one. The guy with the day old boaring pass and invalid id was screened and posed no threat per the TSA blog. This person brought a weapon on the plane, although we know that a stun gun wouldn't take down a plane.
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I honestly don't think the issue is what you can or can't do with them on the plane, the media was jumping all over the fact they allowed a banned item through. My guess is somebody realized they had it, they had to make a connection to another terminal, and decided it was just easier to leave it on the plane (though throwing it out would have been a better choice).
Last night when I saw the story on WCBS, there was nothing available online about it at 11:15 or so. A few minutes later, there was one story (the one I linked to), and this morning there are hundreds, with it all over the place. One has to like the Boston Herald version of it on their blog, just mocking away at recent events.
One of the stations has said it's a Striker 1800 stun gun, which is available online for under $20
Stun-gun found on Boston to Newark flight
A stun-gun was found tucked into the back of a seat on a Boston-to-Newark flight Friday night.
Can you get one of these in Sky Mall?
It’s always disconcerting - and amazing - when things like this happen, especially when the TSA is evidently keeping its eyes open for such things.
So far there’s no word on how the gun got aboard the JetBlue flight to Newark International, or who it belongs to.
At least we know a six-year-old didn’t carry it aboard.
Or this woman didn’t hide it in her hair.
A stun-gun was found tucked into the back of a seat on a Boston-to-Newark flight Friday night.
Can you get one of these in Sky Mall?
It’s always disconcerting - and amazing - when things like this happen, especially when the TSA is evidently keeping its eyes open for such things.
So far there’s no word on how the gun got aboard the JetBlue flight to Newark International, or who it belongs to.
At least we know a six-year-old didn’t carry it aboard.
Or this woman didn’t hide it in her hair.
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Last night when I saw the story on WCBS, there was nothing available online about it at 11:15 or so. A few minutes later, there was one story (the one I linked to), and this morning there are hundreds, with it all over the place. One has to like the Boston Herald version of it on their blog, just mocking away at recent events.
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Another TSA failure.
The sooner the TSA is taken out of the security equation, the safer air travel will become.
The sooner the DHS is taken out of security equation, the sooner we'll get our constitutional rights back.
So, lets roll.
The sooner the TSA is taken out of the security equation, the safer air travel will become.
The sooner the DHS is taken out of security equation, the sooner we'll get our constitutional rights back.
So, lets roll.