The correct answer would have been: "I cannot speak for my family members. You would have to ask him/her. If it's not o.k. with them, then it's not o.k. with me, no matter how I personally feel about the procedure."

I'd go in a different direction: Part of the TSA's mission is to justify the literally tens of millions of dollars being shoveled at our elected representatives in order to ensure implementation of the scanning devices. L-3 Communications (maker of the MMW machines) alone has spent over $15 million in the past three years, and is one of the top 100 companies in the country terms of dollars spent since 1990.

Follow the money, folks. Why look only for evil intent (although I'm sure that's present as well) when you can also look for greed and corruption?

How about I modify my statement a bit - If I were the overriding authority in determining whether my family members were to go through or not, I would have no problem with it. If they are autonomous from me, then they will have to make the decision. However, when asked for an opinion (as I was in this case), and I feel like responding, I will do so.:D

Also doesn't change the fact that said Chechen women bribed their way past security and onto the plane. @:-)

And, it does not change the fact (based on reading the cited article) that profiling would be a good alternative to the time and money-wasting system that is now used by TSA.

TSA's assumption that all passengers are potential terrorists defies logic. Then again, who ever said that TSA is logical?
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Perpetrators of a crime cannot excuse their crime by stating they didn't consider the act to be a crime.

In fact, you are touching our genitalia, buttocks, and breasts in some cases without explicit consent and in ALL cases under DURESS. The fact is we do not want you touching us in those locations but you hold a gun to our heads in the form of missing our flight and being stuck at an airport. You are violating us sexuallly and personally by doing this.

This is nothing other than sexual assault under color of authority. Yes, you may have done far more invasive procedures when you ARRESTED someone as an MP, but we are NOT under arrest.

If what is done in the airport was done in front of my house? I would be justified in beating the perp senseless.

No govt perspective/ruling on 'administrative searches' will change my opinion on this.

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TSA can trot out that worn flag of "Administrative Searches" all they want but the sexual assault patdown screening (SAPS) committed by TSA screeners is just plain wrong and no amount of trying to justify that action will ever make it right or acceptable.

agreed 100%
 

iawtc 100% What really offends me is watching how many people at the airport (dca for example) willingly go through the nude-o-scope. I try to do my part and explain to them what the machine is allowing the screener to see but many are just oblivious. if everyone took a stand....

I have had the pat downs (twice) and gone through the nude-o-scope once. Neither really bother me except that the pat downs take too long and they keep rejecting my request to have a female feel me up.

On the other hand, I think being forced to see my body through the nude-o-scope is sufficient punishment for the poor guy who gets the job.

Some people do nude modeling. That is their choice and so it is fine for them. Forcing everyone to do nude modeling is evil and disgusting.

I wonder if it is going to bother you when you find out that the images that supposedly couldn't be saved are being saved and you and your family end up on a sight titled Airport BodyScanner Porn and those images are alot more graphicly detailed than alot of people believe they are?

See I do believe they are saving them and eventually they are going to get out on the internet when someone can't resist posting all those secret images to a secret pornsite they have created.

Because my view is the sample images that TSA released to various sites as to what they claim those images look like is likely the lowest resolution setting on the machine. Those images have got to have alot more clear detail of the human body than that when it comes to finding an explosive that can be molded to fit against the body like a second skin. A fuzzy blurry image is not going to reveal something that looks like it is apart of the body. The fact that they stuck the person and the image both away in a backroom somewhere is clear evidence of just how graphic those images are. They just don't want the passengers who are being scanned to see there own image. When the truth comes out. The people who so willingly were scanned are going to be even more pissy than the people who got groped. Because being the star of a pornsite where everyone is going to be downloading their naked image is going to come as quite the shock. Because once it is on the internet. Everyone has seen it and downloaded it from the boyfriend to the neighbor down the street.

The machines can save images. I think that point is basically beyond refutation.

And it'd yield bad pictures. (I'm an artist by profession - most people can't hold still for nearly as long as they imagine they can...;))

I don't know if it would bother me as much as it would amaze me as I have not been in a US airport with anyone from my family for over 15 years.

Well there is that van equipped with the MMW technology that drives through neighborhoods that someone posted about on here somewhere. So you could still end up on that site if you live in a neighborhood in the good old USA.