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n4zhg Sep 15, 2010 5:13 am


Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 14656733)
What's worse - there are still forces in this country who want to ban (or find the purchase or reading of, suspicious) the sale of magazines like Flying, or Airliners.

Shotgun News was declared a "subversive publication" in court documents.

Ari Sep 16, 2010 12:17 am

Check out the one for travel agents!:

http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/po...elAgencies.asp


What Should I Consider Suspicious?
  • Purchase of a one-way ticket for use within a couple of days.
  • Payment of cash for ticket purchase.
  • Proof of identity on the strength of documents which are questionable in authenticity.
  • A sudden spike in the number of persons purchasing tickets to a particular locatioin (e.g., to a country overseas) during a specific time period.

(sic.)

RadioGirl Sep 16, 2010 2:19 am


Originally Posted by Ari (Post 14666070)
Check out the one for travel agents!:


What Should I Consider Suspicious?
...
* A sudden spike in the number of persons purchasing tickets to a particular locatioin (e.g., to a country overseas) during a specific time period.

Yeah, nothing xenophobic about suspecting people who travel overseas. :rolleyes: And obviously Richard Reid and the jockey jihadist traveled with large entourages, so being afraid of lots of people going somewhere makes sense. :rolleyes:

Wait a minute. Isn't Oprah coming to Australia ("a country overseas") with a "large number of persons" during "a specific time period"? :eek::eek: Oprah is a terrorist!

Ken hAAmer Sep 16, 2010 3:09 am


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 14666343)
:eek::eek: Oprah is a terrorist!

Old news.


Originally Posted by vasantn (Post 14645390)
Words fail me.

Me too, especially since the morons that wrote the "Camera Sales and Photo Processing Businesses" of "Operation Sentry" don't seem to know anything about digital cameras. Apparently they think all terrorists still use drop-off photo-finishing services to process their "film."

LuvAirFrance Sep 16, 2010 3:34 am

Why do people photograph airports? To prove they were there? I have yet to be in any airport that seemed memorable enough to drag out a camera. Guess I just lack the esthetic sensitivity.

bdschobel Sep 16, 2010 4:39 am

I don't even own a camera, so there! :)

(Actually, my new BlackBerry has a camera buried within it, but I don't know how to use it yet.)

Bruce

polonius Sep 16, 2010 10:28 am


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14666474)
Why do people photograph airports? To prove they were there? I have yet to be in any airport that seemed memorable enough to drag out a camera. Guess I just lack the esthetic sensitivity.

Dulles, the Pan Am terminal at JFK, and many others are quite interesting, beautiful buildings - I have photographed them often.

mkt Sep 16, 2010 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by Ari (Post 14645124)
Eh. I'd rather have hundreds of murders 5 miles from my house than a bunch of bored cops running DUI roadblocks and salivating over any possible moving violation. :p

You just described were I live.

With one change.

We have hundreds of murders a year. And bored cops running DUI roadblocks, salivating over any possible moving violation.

PTravel Sep 16, 2010 12:41 pm


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14666474)
Why do people photograph airports? To prove they were there? I have yet to be in any airport that seemed memorable enough to drag out a camera. Guess I just lack the esthetic sensitivity.

So is your point that Constitutionally-circumscribed powers of government should be expanded or constrained based on what you think is good art?

SDF_Traveler Sep 16, 2010 4:15 pm


Originally Posted by polonius (Post 14668129)
Dulles, the Pan Am terminal at JFK, and many others are quite interesting, beautiful buildings - I have photographed them often.

The old Pan Am terminal that Delta is now using (T3) will be destroyed with improvements being made at JFK.

T4 will be expanded for DL, T3 will be raized, and T2 will be kept with an airside corridor connecting T4 to T2.

T3 JFK isn't very functional with the sheer # of people they are trying to squeeze through it, but it is a piece of history, just as the TWA terminal at JFK is.

Ken hAAmer Sep 16, 2010 5:47 pm


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14666474)
Why do people photograph airports? To prove they were there? I have yet to be in any airport that seemed memorable enough to drag out a camera. Guess I just lack the esthetic sensitivity.

Or maybe you just need to get out more:

http://www.vincentmounier.com/blog2/.../vcr2/yvr2.jpg

http://www.sharpdiamond.com/images/mainpics/yvr4.jpg

http://www.vancouverairportinformati...rport-info.jpg

http://gassyliving.com/wp-content/up...verairport.jpg

http://moblog.net/view/268871/nice-salt-water-aquarium

YVR is an airport made for photography. I'm sure it can't be the only one.

PhoenixRev Sep 16, 2010 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14666474)
Why do people photograph airports?

Because they want to.

polonius Sep 17, 2010 12:42 am


Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler (Post 14671118)
The old Pan Am terminal that Delta is now using (T3) will be destroyed with improvements being made at JFK.

T4 will be expanded for DL, T3 will be raized, and T2 will be kept with an airside corridor connecting T4 to T2.

T3 JFK isn't very functional with the sheer # of people they are trying to squeeze through it, but it is a piece of history, just as the TWA terminal at JFK is.

One of us is confused - the terminal I am referring to was built for Pan Am, then became TWA, and then became something else when TWA went under. (can't remember who bought them now - was it AA?) I doubt they will be tearing that one down - it's a historically and architecturally important building.

I never fly through JFK anymore - too depressing to bring back the memories of what flying used to be - checking in at the mid-town office with the map of the world showing Pan Am' global network in twinkling white lights behind the check-in desk before boarding the bus to aterminal that was straight out of the Jetsons. AND NO ****ING TSA!

SDF_Traveler Sep 17, 2010 4:09 am


Originally Posted by polonius (Post 14677086)
One of us is confused - the terminal I am referring to was built for Pan Am, then became TWA, and then became something else when TWA went under. (can't remember who bought them now - was it AA?) I doubt they will be tearing that one down - it's a historically and architecturally important building.

I never fly through JFK anymore - too depressing to bring back the memories of what flying used to be - checking in at the mid-town office with the map of the world showing Pan Am' global network in twinkling white lights behind the check-in desk before boarding the bus to aterminal that was straight out of the Jetsons. AND NO ****ING TSA!

Sadly, I believe this is the terminal you are thinking of -- once upon a time ago, it was the Pan Am WorldPort.

Pan Am built the terminal in 1960 as a showcase for international jet travel and is known for it's "Flying Saucer" roof.

More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldport_%28Pan_Am%29

It is a piece of history, but sadly Terminal 3, which was once the Pan Am WorldPort will be destroyed. T3 is still in use by Delta Air Lines, is in need of upgrades, and just can't handle the passenger traffic.

It was operated by Pan Am until 1991 when they declared bankruptcy, at which point Delta Air Lines purchased the building.

Using the T3 US Customs & Immigrations facilities is like taking a step back in time.

Here's a pic of the terminal that I took:

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...t-09297297.jpg

Now, there is the old TWA terminal as well. This is being preserved and is also a piece of history.

This terminal has been designated an NYC Landmark and is being renovated so that it can be opened to the public again.

It was built around 1963 and was known as the Trans World Flight Center. From what I understand, it was always a TWA facility until TWA shutdown.

Here's a pic of the TWA Flight Center that I took from the JFK AirTrain

For those wanting to photograph history, from public airport property, I should note security guards and JFK AirTrain employees will harass you for taking pictures from the JFK AirTrain. Apparently taking a photo of this magnificent building IS a suspicious activity.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...t-09308308.jpg

SDF_Traveler

Ken hAAmer Sep 17, 2010 2:09 pm


Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler (Post 14677754)

Here's a pic of the TWA Flight Center that I took from the JFK AirTrain

For those wanting to photograph history, from public airport property, I should note security guards and JFK AirTrain employees will harass you for taking pictures from the JFK AirTrain. Apparently taking a photo of this magnificent building IS a suspicious activity.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...t-09308308.jpg

SDF_Traveler

How long until looking at it becomes a felony?


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