Oct 4, 2020, 11:39 pm
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Marriott cards eligibility chart:
https://frequentmiler.com/marriott-card-eligible/
PERSONAL CARD
Marriott Bonvoy Boundless Visa card
https://creditcards.chase.com/travel...nvoy/boundless
100K points for making $3,000 in purchases within 3 months of opening the card. $95 annual fee, not waived the first year. 6x at Marriott, 3x on grocery/gas/dining (up to $6K/year), 2x on travel and everything else.
BUSINESS CARDS
Business card now issued by AMEX. https://creditcard.americanexpress.c...nvoy-business/
Be mindful of the the 5/24 rule for Chase, where 5 or more new credit cards in 24 months can result in an application denial. For up-to-date information, please consult the wiki at Applying for Chase PERSONAL Cards (2020-present).
Marriott cards eligibility chart:
https://frequentmiler.com/marriott-card-eligible/
PERSONAL CARD
Marriott Bonvoy Boundless Visa card
https://creditcards.chase.com/travel...nvoy/boundless
100K points for making $3,000 in purchases within 3 months of opening the card. $95 annual fee, not waived the first year. 6x at Marriott, 3x on grocery/gas/dining (up to $6K/year), 2x on travel and everything else.
BUSINESS CARDS
Business card now issued by AMEX. https://creditcard.americanexpress.c...nvoy-business/
Chase Marriott Bonvoy Cards, 2019 to present
Aug 1, 2019, 4:41 pm
#31
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: SFO
Programs: AS MVPG 75k, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat, Kenya Airways Gold
Posts: 224
I got the same offer on my amex Bonvoy card and actually laughed a little when I saw it. If it had been an extra one point per dollar up to $10k then sure I'll spend more on that card. but the rates are abysmal.
Aug 1, 2019, 6:21 pm
#32
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Here are the T&C. I think pretty much any spend counts as everyday purchases.
TERMS AND CONDITIONS
* To be eligible for this bonus offer, you must log on to the website referenced in this offer and enroll by 09/30/19 11:59 p.m. ET. You will qualify for and receive your bonus if you make Purchases with your credit card that total an amount at or above the specified target amount during the promotional period. Purchases posted to your account with a transaction date during the offer period are eligible for this offer. Delays by the merchant, such as shipping, could extend the transaction date beyond the offer period. Please allow up to 8 weeks after the last day of the promotional period for bonus points to post to your account. ("Purchases" do not include balance transfers, cash advances, travelers checks, foreign currency, money orders, wire transfers or similar cash-like transactions, lottery tickets, casino gaming chips, race track wagers or similar betting transactions, any checks that access your account, interest, unauthorized or fraudulent charges, or fees of any kind, including an annual fee, if applicable.) To qualify for this bonus offer, account must be open and not in default at the time of fulfillment. This promotional offer is non-transferable and applies only to the account ending in the last 4 digits referenced in this offer.
Aug 2, 2019, 10:17 am
#33
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: Delta Diamond, Bonvoy something good; sometimes other things too
Posts: 5,050
Interesting to consider this alongside the various targeted and general-public threshold bonuses Amex has been running on the SPG Amex (or whatever it's called now) since the devaluation from 1 SPG point to 2 Bonvoy points/dollar. It would seem customers are not falling for the lousy return, which I'm actually kind of surprised (pleasantly surprised) to see.
Aug 5, 2019, 8:52 pm
#34
Join Date: Nov 2007
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Platinum, Hilton Honors Diamond, Delta Gold
Posts: 4,332
Wouldn't the 10k points for $10k spend be similar to the offer from awhile back that was for 25k points for $25k spend (up to 4 times until the end of 2019)?
Doesn't that make it 3x points per dollar which is just like getting 1 SPG as previously? Why is that such a bad deal for regular spend? Am I missing something here?
ETA: Ok, just realized that this offer was made on a Chase Marriott card which makes it maximum 2 points per dollar and I was thinking about the offer on the Amex which made it 3 points per dollar. Sorry, my bad. I get it now, it's totally not worth it.
Doesn't that make it 3x points per dollar which is just like getting 1 SPG as previously? Why is that such a bad deal for regular spend? Am I missing something here?
ETA: Ok, just realized that this offer was made on a Chase Marriott card which makes it maximum 2 points per dollar and I was thinking about the offer on the Amex which made it 3 points per dollar. Sorry, my bad. I get it now, it's totally not worth it.
Aug 6, 2019, 6:05 am
#35
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: Delta Diamond, Bonvoy something good; sometimes other things too
Posts: 5,050
Wouldn't the 10k points for $10k spend be similar to the offer from awhile back that was for 25k points for $25k spend (up to 4 times until the end of 2019)?
Doesn't that make it 3x points per dollar which is just like getting 1 SPG as previously? Why is that such a bad deal for regular spend? Am I missing something here?
ETA: Ok, just realized that this offer was made on a Chase Marriott card which makes it maximum 2 points per dollar and I was thinking about the offer on the Amex which made it 3 points per dollar. Sorry, my bad. I get it now, it's totally not worth it.
Doesn't that make it 3x points per dollar which is just like getting 1 SPG as previously? Why is that such a bad deal for regular spend? Am I missing something here?
ETA: Ok, just realized that this offer was made on a Chase Marriott card which makes it maximum 2 points per dollar and I was thinking about the offer on the Amex which made it 3 points per dollar. Sorry, my bad. I get it now, it's totally not worth it.
And I I tend to agree with your thinking that getting back to 3 Marriott points per dollar with either of these offers isn’t too bad. In theory the Chase Freedom Unlimited combined with a Sapphire card is a better return, which tends to be what the bloggers point to, but that can vary a lot from person to person depending how you tend to use your Chase points and your Marriott points. And especially so if you have Marriott status but don’t have Hyatt status (since Hyatt redemptions can be one of the best uses of Chase UR points).
The other way that these offers can be useful that I don’t hear people talking about too much is that you could also spend the $10k or $25k wholly on Marriott hotels and get 7 points per dollar that way which is really pretty good. Granted not many people have $25k of Marriott spend, but surely some do (especially since people make Ambassador with $20k of spend excluding taxes, resort fees, and often parking and other costs, while Amex’s/Chase’s counter includes all of those things).
I’m sure some such people feel they get enough Marriott points from their stays already and don’t care about getting more on the credit card, but personally I feel like I can never have enough Marriott points — they go fast at premium property redemptions. And with all the credit card bonus categories these days there are lots of ways to rack up other types of points like Chase UR and Amex MR. So I’m happy to have a reasonably-good-return option to get Marriott points from a credit card again.
Sep 9, 2019, 5:42 am
#36
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Will I get the Chase Marriott Bonvoy Boundless welcome bonus?
So I applied for and got the AMEX SPG Business card in March 2019. I'm sort of confused by the rules that Marriott made with Chase and AMEX. If I were to apply for the Chase Marriott Bonvoy Boundless now, will I get the welcome bonus? If not, when can I apply and get the welcome bonus?
Sep 9, 2019, 6:51 am
#37
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, Mpls & London
Programs: AA & Marriott Perpetual Platinum; DL & HH Gold
Posts: 48,952
Where is the confusion? You are not eligible for a bonus until 24 months after the American Express bonus posted to your Marriott account.
MARRIOTT BONVOY BOUNDLESS CREDIT CARD
Earn 75,000 Bonus Points:
Eligibility for this product: The product is not available to either:
current cardmembers of the Marriott Bonvoy Premier credit card (also known as Marriott Rewards® Premier), Marriott Bonvoy Boundless credit card (also known as Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus), Marriott Bonvoy Bold credit card, or previous cardmembers of the Marriott Bonvoy Premier credit card (also known as Marriott Rewards® Premier), Marriott Bonvoy Boundless credit card (also known as Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus), or Marriott Bonvoy Bold™ credit card, who received a new cardmember bonus within the last 24 months.
If you are an existing Marriott Rewards Premier or Marriott Bonvoy Premier customer and would like this product, please call the number on the back of your card to see if you are eligible for a product change.
Eligibility for the new cardmember bonus: The bonus is not available to you if you:
are a current cardmember, or were a previous cardmember within the last 30 days, of Marriott Bonvoy American Express® Card (also known as The Starwood Preferred Guest® Credit Card from American Express);
are a current or previous cardmember of either Marriott Bonvoy Business American Express® Card (also known as The Starwood Preferred Guest® Business Credit Card from American Express) or Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant American Express® Card (also known as the Starwood Preferred Guest® American Express Luxury Card), and received a new cardmember bonus or upgrade bonus in the last 24 months; or applied and were approved for Marriott Bonvoy Business American Express® Card (also known as The Starwood Preferred Guest® Business Credit Card from American Express) or Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant American Express® Card (also known as the Starwood Preferred Guest® American Express Luxury Card) within the last 90 days.
Earn 75,000 Bonus Points:
Eligibility for this product: The product is not available to either:
current cardmembers of the Marriott Bonvoy Premier credit card (also known as Marriott Rewards® Premier), Marriott Bonvoy Boundless credit card (also known as Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus), Marriott Bonvoy Bold credit card, or previous cardmembers of the Marriott Bonvoy Premier credit card (also known as Marriott Rewards® Premier), Marriott Bonvoy Boundless credit card (also known as Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus), or Marriott Bonvoy Bold™ credit card, who received a new cardmember bonus within the last 24 months.
If you are an existing Marriott Rewards Premier or Marriott Bonvoy Premier customer and would like this product, please call the number on the back of your card to see if you are eligible for a product change.
Eligibility for the new cardmember bonus: The bonus is not available to you if you:
are a current cardmember, or were a previous cardmember within the last 30 days, of Marriott Bonvoy American Express® Card (also known as The Starwood Preferred Guest® Credit Card from American Express);
are a current or previous cardmember of either Marriott Bonvoy Business American Express® Card (also known as The Starwood Preferred Guest® Business Credit Card from American Express) or Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant American Express® Card (also known as the Starwood Preferred Guest® American Express Luxury Card), and received a new cardmember bonus or upgrade bonus in the last 24 months; or applied and were approved for Marriott Bonvoy Business American Express® Card (also known as The Starwood Preferred Guest® Business Credit Card from American Express) or Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant American Express® Card (also known as the Starwood Preferred Guest® American Express Luxury Card) within the last 90 days.
Sep 13, 2019, 12:34 pm
#38
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, MLife Gold, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Caesars Diamond, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,934
I'm trying to figure out what (if any) sign up bonus I'm eligible for. I held the SPG Personal and Business and received bonuses for those. I canceled the Personal before the merger and kept the Business, which was converted to a Marriott Bonvoy Business. From what I can gather, I am not eligible for any Amex Marriott bonus ever under the current rules. Is this correct?
I have also had the pre Bonvoy Chase Marriott personal (and received bonus 4/2017) but canceled it about a year ago. I think I am eligible for this one as long as the bonus was >24 months ago. Is that correct? Or is Chase counting my Amex SPG Personal the same way Amex does?
I have also had the pre Bonvoy Chase Marriott personal (and received bonus 4/2017) but canceled it about a year ago. I think I am eligible for this one as long as the bonus was >24 months ago. Is that correct? Or is Chase counting my Amex SPG Personal the same way Amex does?
Last edited by Stgermainparis; Sep 13, 2019 at 12:40 pm
Sep 13, 2019, 1:02 pm
#39
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Holding the SPG Business card does disqualify you from earning a bonus for the Marriott Business card. In principle this is a lifetime restriction, but in practice it will end "about" 7 years after you close the Amex Marriott Business card.
Holding the $95 SPG personal card does not disqualify you from earning a bonus for the $450 Amex Bonvoy Brilliant card -but- Marriott also looks at the Chase card history:
Welcome offer not available to applicants who (i) have or have had The Ritz-Carlton™ Credit Card from JPMorgan or the J.P. Morgan Ritz-Carlton Rewards® Credit Card in the last 30 days, (ii) have acquired the Marriott Bonvoy Boundless™ Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy™ Premier Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Rewards® Premier Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy Bold™ Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy™ Premier Plus Business Credit Card from Chase or the Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Business Credit Card from Chase in the last 90 days, or (iii) received a new Card Member bonus or upgrade offer for the Marriott Bonvoy Boundless™ Credit Card from Chase, Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy™ Premier Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Rewards® Premier Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy Bold™ Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy™ Premier Plus Business Credit Card from Chase or the Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Business Credit Card from Chase in the last 24 months.
Nov 19, 2019, 6:06 pm
#40
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 2,505
One of my readers found an offer for the Marriott Bonvoy Boundless Visa card with a $250 credit and the $95 annual fee waived the first year. Landing page. Compare to the 75K points offer with the annual fee not waived. The reader said that he was just making a reservation on the Ritz site and received a link offer right under the room rate. You might try to find it there before using my link.
Jan 13, 2020, 3:12 pm
#41
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,738
With the complicated rules between AMEX and Chase regarding the ownership of which card would prevent owning which card, I am quite confused.
Can somebody confirm this is true, that owning an AMEX Business BonVoy card also precludes you from getting a Chase personal BonVoy card, even if your AMEX card has earned sign up bonus 5 years ago?
Would you need to have no AMEX Business BonVoy card for at least 90 days before you can attempt for a Chase Personal BonVoy card?
I just dont see the logic to make people can only own either a Chase personal card or an AMEX business card, that are opened to new applicants.
mia, can you help to clarify the conditions of eligibility of getting a new Chase personal BonVoy card bonus, if one meets the 5/24, but also owns an AMEX business BonVoy for many years? Much thanks.
Can somebody confirm this is true, that owning an AMEX Business BonVoy card also precludes you from getting a Chase personal BonVoy card, even if your AMEX card has earned sign up bonus 5 years ago?
Would you need to have no AMEX Business BonVoy card for at least 90 days before you can attempt for a Chase Personal BonVoy card?
I just dont see the logic to make people can only own either a Chase personal card or an AMEX business card, that are opened to new applicants.
mia, can you help to clarify the conditions of eligibility of getting a new Chase personal BonVoy card bonus, if one meets the 5/24, but also owns an AMEX business BonVoy for many years? Much thanks.
Last edited by Happy; Jan 13, 2020 at 4:32 pm
Jan 13, 2020, 5:26 pm
#43
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 149
Similar facts
so I had the Marriott PR personal, added the business version the day before it was ended for new applications, then added the Amex BonVoy Business the day before the AF was raised... like March of 2019. I had no problems applying or receiving the card, but it was the only time I got the no bonus pop up. I realize that you are coming the other way here but I hope this helps. Btw, even with having both Amex and chase Marriott cards, I was still able to PC my Marriott PR personal to a Ritz card, last month
With the complicated rules between AMEX and Chase regarding the ownership of which card would prevent owning which card, I am quite confused.
Can somebody confirm this is true, that owning an AMEX Business BonVoy card also precludes you from getting a Chase personal BonVoy card, even if your AMEX card has earned sign up bonus 5 years ago?
Would you need to have no AMEX Business BonVoy card for at least 90 days before you can attempt for a Chase Personal BonVoy card?
I just dont see the logic to make people can only own either a Chase personal card or an AMEX business card, that are opened to new applicants.
mia, can you help to clarify the conditions of eligibility of getting a new Chase personal BonVoy card bonus, if one meets the 5/24, but also owns an AMEX business BonVoy for many years? Much thanks.
Can somebody confirm this is true, that owning an AMEX Business BonVoy card also precludes you from getting a Chase personal BonVoy card, even if your AMEX card has earned sign up bonus 5 years ago?
Would you need to have no AMEX Business BonVoy card for at least 90 days before you can attempt for a Chase Personal BonVoy card?
I just dont see the logic to make people can only own either a Chase personal card or an AMEX business card, that are opened to new applicants.
mia, can you help to clarify the conditions of eligibility of getting a new Chase personal BonVoy card bonus, if one meets the 5/24, but also owns an AMEX business BonVoy for many years? Much thanks.
Last edited by EZTraveler; Jan 13, 2020 at 5:29 pm Reason: I put my reply in the quote
Jan 13, 2020, 6:01 pm
#44
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Location: Florida
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so I had the Marriott PR personal, added the business version the day before it was ended for new applications, then added the Amex BonVoy Business the day before the AF was raised... like March of 2019. I had no problems applying or receiving the card, but it was the only time I got the no bonus pop up. I realize that you are coming the other way here but I hope this helps. Btw, even with having both Amex and chase Marriott cards, I was still able to PC my Marriott PR personal to a Ritz card, last month
The language on Chase application is not at all clear to me whether I would get the 100K sign up bonus on the personal card. No.2 seems to say only apply to those who have received the bonus within past 24 months, but not necessarily having the AMEX BonVoy business card. I hope this is what it meant as there is unreasonable to prevent applicant to get a sign up bonus just because owning the AMEX business card which the sign up bonus was received much much longer than 24 months ago.
Eligibility for the new cardmember bonus: The bonus is not available to you if you:
- (1) are a current cardmember, or were a previous cardmember within the last 30 days, of Marriott Bonvoy™ American Express® Card (also known as The Starwood Preferred Guest® Credit Card from American Express);
- (2) are a current or previous cardmember of either Marriott Bonvoy Business™ American Express® Card (also known as The Starwood Preferred Guest® Business Credit Card from American Express) or Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant™ American Express® Card (also known as the Starwood Preferred Guest® American Express Luxury Card), and received a new cardmember bonus or upgrade bonus in the last 24 months; or
- (3) applied and were approved for Marriott Bonvoy Business™ American Express® Card (also known as The Starwood Preferred Guest® Business Credit Card from American Express) or Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant™ American Express® Card (also known as the Starwood Preferred Guest® American Express Luxury Card) within the last 90 days.
Jan 29, 2020, 11:58 pm
#45
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 164
Chase Marriott Boundless 100k bonus
Hi, I want to apply for the Chase Marriott Boundless cc to get the 100k points. I have had the Amex SPG card now Marriott Bonvoy for many years. The fine print for the Chase card says I can only get the 100k bonus if I have not had the Amex Marriott Bonvoy card in the last 30 days.
I could cancel my Amex card and wait 30 days the apply for the Chase card for the bonus but I want to keep the Amex card active for credit history length as it is one of my first credit cards. Could I switch the Amex Marriott card to a different no annual fee card, wait for 30 days then apply for the Chase Marriott card to get 100k bonus points? Would I be eligible for the bonus points doing that? Thank you!
I could cancel my Amex card and wait 30 days the apply for the Chase card for the bonus but I want to keep the Amex card active for credit history length as it is one of my first credit cards. Could I switch the Amex Marriott card to a different no annual fee card, wait for 30 days then apply for the Chase Marriott card to get 100k bonus points? Would I be eligible for the bonus points doing that? Thank you!
