Changes to Freedom and Unlimited, new Freedom Flex card & strategies
Bloggers seem to be reporting on changes to Freedom and FU so I figured I should share it for the FT masses:
https://onemileatatime.com/chase-freedom-flex-card/ https://thepointsguy.com/news/chase-freedom-flex-intro/ FU changes giving you 3x on restaurants seems like it would be the death of the "regular" Sapphire IMHO. |
I'm thinking keep the Freedom if you have it already, mainly so that it can continue to be used at Costco (in the event they have "warehouse stores" as a 5% category at some point in the future).
Anyway, like you, my bigger concern is that this will trigger negative changes on CSP/CSR (for instance, getting rid of the dining category). I guess we'll see what happens with those. |
If you already hold both Freedom and Unlimited there does not seem to be any reason to change Freedom to Flex. Both blog articles assert that Freedom Flex will be a World Elite MasterCard, but the accompanying graphic does not seem to support this. However, I assume Chase provided this information, and that MasterCard has made Chase an offer to chip away at VISA's market share.
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Originally Posted by tmiw
(Post 32642266)
I'm thinking keep the Freedom if you have it already, mainly so that it can continue to be used at Costco (in the event they have "warehouse stores" as a 5% category at some point in the future).
Anyway, like you, my bigger concern is that this will trigger negative changes on CSP/CSR (for instance, getting rid of the dining category). I guess we'll see what happens with those. |
Originally Posted by Adelphos
(Post 32642295)
....5% of travel purchased those Chase UR (a bonus category not available on either Sapphire card).
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Originally Posted by christianj
(Post 32642214)
Bloggers seem to be reporting on changes to Freedom and FU so I figured I should share it for the FT masses:
https://onemileatatime.com/chase-freedom-flex-card/ https://thepointsguy.com/news/chase-freedom-flex-intro/ FU changes giving you 3x on restaurants seems like it would be the death of the "regular" Sapphire IMHO. But this might also be setting up to revamp the Sapphire earning potential. Chase was the trailblazer there 5 years ago but now others have caught up (and overdone Chase). |
Originally Posted by christianj
(Post 32642214)
.... the death of the "regular" Sapphire IMHO.
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This is very odd. You have to think changes are coming to the CSR/CSP. The CSP is basically useless now except for the ability to transfer to UR partners. Otherwise I have 0 reason to carry the CSP now.
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Originally Posted by arshi007
(Post 32642340)
There's also information on awardwallet. I think this may actually make the Sapphire more "needed". Its only with Sapphire that you would be able to transfer these points so for the folks who are into UR points, they will have to hold one of the Sapphires and pay the annual fee (even if they don't put any spend on it) and for those just interested in cashback, the Freedom just got more interesting. I don't know if Chase would care if consumers spend more on the Sapphire portfolio vs Freedom as long as they can attract more spend on Chase cards.
But this might also be setting up to revamp the Sapphire earning potential. Chase was the trailblazer there 5 years ago but now others have caught up (and overdone Chase). - and - Chase: "Check out our new credit card!" Also Chase: "We're not approving new accounts during the pandemic." |
Originally Posted by mia
(Post 32642319)
People who booked travel through any agency have experienced difficulty obtaining refunds during pandemic disruptions. I image this "bonus" is funded by Expedia and will be added to other Chase cards, because they need to rebuild their business.
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You'd think there would need to be changes to the CSR otherwise I don't know why anyone would keep it if they have or can get their hands on an Ink Preferred. I suppose if you really like the 1.5cpp redemption you might want to keep it, but the US Bank AR is superior to the CSR if that is your intended redemption.
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Well, it's no doubt a very appealing card now.
Can one downgrade a co-branded card (Ritz-Carlton) to a Freedom or only one of the Sapphire (or FU) products? If I can downgrade, perfect timing for me. |
Originally Posted by zorbachs
(Post 32642352)
This is very odd. You have to think changes are coming to the CSR/CSP. The CSP is basically useless now except for the ability to transfer to UR partners. Otherwise I have 0 reason to carry the CSP now.
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Thanks. This looks like a good switch from my CSR. I was definitely not going to pay the increased AF on the CSR but I'm not convinced that its benefits are even worth the $450 AF ($150 after getting travel credit benefits) since I just don't know what's going to happen to my travel patterns in 2021.
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Originally Posted by mia
(Post 32642346)
Do you mean the free Sapphire card?
I also think we will see changes in the CSP and CSR in the near future. Honestly improvements are needed on the CSR side since AMEX revamped their Gold cards (and even their Green cards) earnings potential. For me all the dining spend that used to go on the CSR now goes to AMEX Gold along with grocery spend. |
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