Applying for Chase PERSONAL Cards (2020 - 2022)
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#871
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 46
No, not kidding. The question was, “What was your major at Blue Mountain State University?” I answered, “I didn’t go there.” Her response was, “That’s the answer I was looking for.”
Now I just did a Google search now and that school is fictional. But of course my heart was racing when she asked those questions as I had to answer fairly quickly.
Now I just did a Google search now and that school is fictional. But of course my heart was racing when she asked those questions as I had to answer fairly quickly.
#872
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#873
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: NYC suburbs
Programs: UA LT Gold (BIS), AA LT Plat (CC SUBs & BD), Hilton Dia (CC), Hyatt Glob (BIB), several others
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It is quite annoying. Kinda like some online “logic” tests. “How much dirt is in a hole that’s 4’ by 6’ and 2’ deep?” Most recently I was asked about associated addresses and one of the choices was where I lived for less than a year over 40 years ago. And of course when asked about professional licenses and trying to expedite the process by answering before they list the choices, “medicine” is not acceptable because they see (and will only accept) “medicine and surgery”
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Apparently fraud, most worrisome for cash transfers between personal checking accounts, is a major frequent problem and the perpetrators are getting more sophisticated. From a layperson’s point of view, in 2022 with voice identification and caller ID verifying the call is coming from an established phone number, “20 questions*” nonsense, be it public records information and/or personal account information (Mom’s maiden name, DOB, address, CCV) isn’t necessary. Although the perpetrators can simulate (calling from) a phone number, don’t think they’ve yet overcome/replicated voice ID.
(* Twenty questions is a spoken parlor game, which encourages deductive reasoning and creativity.)
(None, there’s no dirt in the hole.
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Apparently fraud, most worrisome for cash transfers between personal checking accounts, is a major frequent problem and the perpetrators are getting more sophisticated. From a layperson’s point of view, in 2022 with voice identification and caller ID verifying the call is coming from an established phone number, “20 questions*” nonsense, be it public records information and/or personal account information (Mom’s maiden name, DOB, address, CCV) isn’t necessary. Although the perpetrators can simulate (calling from) a phone number, don’t think they’ve yet overcome/replicated voice ID.
(* Twenty questions is a spoken parlor game, which encourages deductive reasoning and creativity.)
(None, there’s no dirt in the hole.

Last edited by Dr Jabadski; Jun 12, 22 at 2:39 pm Reason: typo correction
#875
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
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Yes, Chase has indeed made the “approval notification” process inaccurate and unnecessarily complicated. There are many datapoints of what should be called “modified instant approval”, whereby the last application webpage states something to the effect of “pending further review” but the new account is present online as soon as one can login to their account and a “congratulations” email is received 2 minutes later. Quite annoying
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(Just realized as I wrote this that “modified instant approval” is another phase for which the acronym is “mia” which most commonly is Miami airport but to me is “missing in action” and absolutely should not imply any disrespect to our esteemed moderator
. Perhaps a different term is appropriate, maybe (from Chase’s spin doctor point of view) “improved instant approval” or maybe “adjusted instant approval”.
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(Just realized as I wrote this that “modified instant approval” is another phase for which the acronym is “mia” which most commonly is Miami airport but to me is “missing in action” and absolutely should not imply any disrespect to our esteemed moderator




#876
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: NYC suburbs
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#877
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SNA
Programs: UA 1MM, Global Entry, Avis President's Club
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Chase Presidential Plus to Chase United Club Infinite - SUB?
I need some advice from the experts here. I currently have 2 Chase cards: Sapphire Preferred and the very old Presidential Plus which among other things, provides United Club access. I am interested in dropping the Presidential Plus and moving to the United Club Infinite and getting the sign-up bonus of 100k miles. My question is what is the best way to do this?
Should I just apply for the Infinite through the website, presumably get approved, and then cancel the Presidential Plus card at a later date? Or should I possibly call Chase and request that the Presidential Plus be exchanged for the Infinite? If I go that route, would I still be eligible for the SUB?
I have no concerns with 5/24. I have a couple of other non-Chase cards for a total of maybe 4-5 cards, but I have had all of them for several years. I'm not a churner. TIA for any advice you can offer.
Should I just apply for the Infinite through the website, presumably get approved, and then cancel the Presidential Plus card at a later date? Or should I possibly call Chase and request that the Presidential Plus be exchanged for the Infinite? If I go that route, would I still be eligible for the SUB?
I have no concerns with 5/24. I have a couple of other non-Chase cards for a total of maybe 4-5 cards, but I have had all of them for several years. I'm not a churner. TIA for any advice you can offer.
#878
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: AKC
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Should I just apply for the Infinite through the website, presumably get approved, and then cancel the Presidential Plus card at a later date?
#879
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,209
Any data points on waiting period of closing Marriott Boundless card and reapplying for a new one? Should be eligible as my old Boundless was 9+ years old, 3+ years from getting the Marriott Premier to Boundless upgrade bonus, and 5+ years having my Bonvoy Amex (old SPG card).
#880
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Any data points on waiting period of closing Marriott Boundless card and reapplying for a new one? Should be eligible as my old Boundless was 9+ years old, 3+ years from getting the Marriott Premier to Boundless upgrade bonus, and 5+ years having my Bonvoy Amex (old SPG card).
The questions above about "how long to wait" & CL are not specific to Marriott cards. I'd suggest that these questions be asked in the "Applying for Chase Personal Cards" thread. It is a more active thread. And then search that thread for your questions. A 4 day wait is generally long enough after a card closure. Happy Father's Day to all the father's out there. 

Since the 5 free nights offer seems to expire 7/21, I am likely going to wait 30 days after my cancellation of the old card (6/13) to be on the safe side unless everyone here thinks that’s totally stupid and unnecessary.
#881
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 658
No personal experience, and I would be interested in data points, too. In the Marriott card thread a recent post said:
Since the 5 free nights offer seems to expire 7/21, I am likely going to wait 30 days after my cancellation of the old card (6/13) to be on the safe side unless everyone here thinks that’s totally stupid and unnecessary.
Since the 5 free nights offer seems to expire 7/21, I am likely going to wait 30 days after my cancellation of the old card (6/13) to be on the safe side unless everyone here thinks that’s totally stupid and unnecessary.
#882
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,886
So what does Chase do if you have a credit balance on a card when you cancel it? If it's a significant amount of points accumulated do they notify the partner to claw back the points? If the net spend on after the refund is less than the actual SUB threshold do they claw back the SUB or raise any red flags on your account? Does it matter what the timing is on those earnings and the refund or cancellation? Is there something that can be done to "fix" the situation aside from finding extra things to spend money on?