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Readytoretire Jan 15, 2019 12:17 pm

Chase not reporting authorized users
 
My 23 year-old daughter applied for the Chase Freedom Unlimited and was denied for a limited credit history despite a good income. She has been a long time AU on my Freedom card and this did not show up on their credit check. We conference called reconsideration and the agent/lender would not budge. Makes me want to go in and close all my cards except I would miss the three two week cruises that I have received from gaming points from multiple cards to the Sapphire Reserve. They really treated my daughter poorly and I am sure the two credit pulls they made won't help her limited credit profile.

halamadrid Jan 15, 2019 1:48 pm

You probably already know this, but making financial decisions based on emotion is usually not a good strategy. You did well in not closing your own accounts with Chase (and you shouldn't just b/c of this isolated unpleasant interaction). From experience in helping family members in similar situations with Chase (with similar results), I've learned that Chase doesn't like to be be the first one to "jump in the pool." I've had agents tell me that they would like to see the individual that I was trying to help get additional history with other issuers first and then come back in 6-12 months and try again with Chase. I'd recommend that your daughter perhaps try applying with someone else like Wells Fargo for example since they seem to be willing to extend credit more freely to make up for past indiscretions (check out their Propel or Cash Wise no-fee products). Credit card forums or others can/would probably provide better advice on other products that are better suited for someone with a limited history, but I would just say that this is just a temporary setback with Chase and your daughter should be able to build that history and try again in the not so distant future.

scubadu Jan 15, 2019 2:15 pm


Originally Posted by Readytoretire (Post 30658246)
My 23 year-old daughter applied for the Chase Freedom Unlimited and was denied for a limited credit history despite a good income. She has been a long time AU on my Freedom card and this did not show up on their credit check. We conference called reconsideration and the agent/lender would not budge. Makes me want to go in and close all my cards except I would miss the three two week cruises that I have received from gaming points from multiple cards to the Sapphire Reserve. They really treated my daughter poorly and I am sure the two credit pulls they made won't help her limited credit profile.

I'll say this more directly than the other poster; this would be a ridiculous reason for you to severe your personal relationship with Chase, assuming you are otherwise happy with the value you have gotten from the relationship.

Take a deep breath and come in off the ledge...

Regards

HawkeyeFlyer Jan 15, 2019 5:13 pm


Originally Posted by scubadu (Post 30658677)
I'll say this more directly than the other poster; this would be a ridiculous reason for you to severe your personal relationship with Chase, assuming you are otherwise happy with the value you have gotten from the relationship.

Take a deep breath and come in off the ledge...

Regards

I agree 100%. And here is the cold hard fact, you are not "proving" anything to Chase by closing your accounts. They would not care. Also, you are not "gaming" the system by using Freedom, Freedom Unlimited and Sapphire....tons of people do it, Chase knows it and again....does not care

Readytoretire Jan 15, 2019 10:01 pm

Thank you for the comments and we will look for a different card company but I think it is ridiculous for Chase to not give someone who makes almost 200K a year a (redacted) Freedom card even if they are only 23.with a limited credit history. What made me particularly mad was they did not report the AU status to any credit bureau. They initially pulled TU and denied the card. When we talked to reconsideration the agent suggested pulling a different bureau giving the impression that the AU status would make all the difference. But still no notification or approval and I assume two hard pulls. Part of the reason I put my daughter on the card in the first place was to get her some credit history and certainly bloggers like TPG gave the impression that it would.

HawkeyeFlyer with the multitude of signup bonuses for the various card iterations that we have received over the years I feel we have well gamed the system. But those days are over. Maybe its time to put everything on my 2% Fidelity cash back card.

halamadrid Jan 15, 2019 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by Readytoretire (Post 30660076)
Thank you for the comments and we will look for a different card company but I think it is ridiculous for Chase to not give someone who makes almost 200K a year a damn Freedom card even if they are only 23.with a limited credit history. What made me particularly mad was they did not report the AU status to any credit bureau. They initially pulled TU and denied the card. When we talked to reconsideration the agent suggested pulling a different bureau giving the impression that the AU status would make all the difference. But still no notification or approval and I assume two hard pulls.

Are you saying that they are still considering the application after the pull from a different CB? If that's the case and they are still thinking about it perhaps there's a shot. Have you tried reaching out to recon again? It can't hurt at this point and you may get someone more helpful. You can frame the call as a follow-up since they said they were doing another pull to take another look at the app and you just wanted to check the status.

P.S. In terms of your accounts I think the best revenge is to keep getting as much value from them as you've been doing ;) :D

scubadu Jan 16, 2019 5:16 am


Originally Posted by Readytoretire (Post 30660076)
Thank you for the comments and we will look for a different card company but I think it is ridiculous for Chase to not give someone who makes almost 200K a year a [redacted] Freedom card even if they are only 23.with a limited credit history. What made me particularly mad was they did not report the AU status to any credit bureau. They initially pulled TU and denied the card. When we talked to reconsideration the agent suggested pulling a different bureau giving the impression that the AU status would make all the difference. But still no notification or approval and I assume two hard pulls. Part of the reason I put my daughter on the card in the first place was to get her some credit history and certainly bloggers like TPG gave the impression that it would.

HawkeyeFlyer with the multitude of signup bonuses for the various card iterations that we have received over the years I feel we have well gamed the system. But those days are over. Maybe its time to put everything on my 2% Fidelity cash back card.

If your 23 y/o daughter is already making $200K a year and this issue is her biggest problem, I think she is going to be fine.

Regards

Readytoretire Jan 16, 2019 5:51 am

halamadrid, The app is dead. They did the second pull while we were on a long hold and it proved fruitless.

NYC big law scale is 190K + bonus for first years. Its lots of hours but a good gig if you can get it.

roundtree Jan 16, 2019 6:43 am

I'll ask what seems obvious to me: why haven't you and your daughter pressed Chase to get the AU card reported to the bureaus? I'm an AU on some of my wife's cards (and vice versa), all of which are reported.

I'm sure many here would love to know how to convince Chase to NOT report AU.

krazykanuck Jan 16, 2019 7:23 am


Originally Posted by Readytoretire (Post 30660076)
but I think it is ridiculous for Chase to not give someone who makes almost 200K a year a damn Freedom card even if they are only 23.with a limited credit history.

Chase typically won't approve people that have under 1 year of credit history in their own name. I too find it surprising that they didn't report her AU card, though honestly I'm not sure how much that would have helped her odds of approval regardless of income.

Readytoretire Jan 16, 2019 7:29 am

roundtree, That is exactly what I just did. Called the Freedom card number and was sent directly to the credit department. The gentleman was very good. He quickly could tell it was never reported and the reason he gave was my daughter's address on file was the same as the billing address. Seemed pretty weak to me. All he needed was her current address and he said it would be reported today and would show up in three to five days on the credit report. In the past my daughter was also an AU on my wife's card and I assume that wasn't reported either. My daughter hasn't lived at the billing/my home address in over six years.

Probably should have insisted on the recon guy calling the credit department about the AU status while I was on the conference call. He just wasn't very cooperative.

Now do we want to call recon again next week or just go elsewhere?

thunderlounge Jan 16, 2019 7:54 am

Recon would have to pull again to see the updated status. You might be able to ask them to pull the third bureau which they haven’t pulled yet. That assumes they reported to that one, but would at least only leave one pull per bureau. They may not be able to pull from a specific bureau, but worth asking. I would wait more than the 3-5 days though. Maybe give it a full 7 instead.

Is she signed up for one of the free sites like credit karma? Good place to start to see what accounts are reported. But don’t have her sign up until the 7 days have passed as you only get one update per week, and the initial signup would be that first weekly pull.

mia Jan 16, 2019 8:34 am


Originally Posted by Readytoretire (Post 30661049)
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NYC big law scale.....

Does the firm not have an arrangement with a bank that will issue cards to newly hired associates?

Jaimito Cartero Jan 16, 2019 8:41 am

Did you not check her scores before applying? I helped my oldest kid apply for the first card, and that’s the first thing I did. My wife is an AU on some cards, and all show up on her credit report.

Ali380 Jan 16, 2019 10:14 am


Originally Posted by Readytoretire (Post 30658246)
They really treated my daughter poorly and I am sure the two credit pulls they made won't help her limited credit profile.

At the end of the day the bank is a business and they will look out for themselves first. They have nothing against you or your daughter. Even with solid income, a low score or no history will result in denial especially with Chase. As someone mentioned Chase is not the ideal 'first' account. You can try Discover or Cap1 and I bet after a year of on time payments she will get approved for Chase.


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