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eajusa May 2, 2018 7:26 pm

Chase Marriott Premier PLUS - post your upgrade offers
 
It appears that there is no upgrade offer for this card, so I will be closing my account tomorrow.

nall May 2, 2018 8:14 pm


Originally Posted by eajusa (Post 29709258)
It appears that there is no upgrade offer for this card, so I will be closing my account tomorrow.

They are supposedly coming, just not live yet.

nall May 2, 2018 8:47 pm

I can now view my upgrade offer. 10,000 points.

jiminboston May 3, 2018 8:02 am

Upgrade offer
 
The upgrade link is live. I was offered 20K bonus points to upgrade to the new Marriott Premier Plus cc from my Marriott Premier cc.
What offers have others been getting?

cmatthews11 May 3, 2018 8:37 am

Only 10k bonus points for me... I mean, I'm sure I'll still do it since this is my wife's primary card, but does anyone think these offers will get any better with time?

jiminboston May 3, 2018 8:38 am

I wonder if you call Chase that they might give you a better offer??

cmatthews11 May 3, 2018 8:43 am

10,000 points after first purchase

nall May 3, 2018 9:02 am


Originally Posted by cmatthews11 (Post 29711081)
Only 10k bonus points for me...

Same. One of my relatives, however, holds a Marriott card was offered 50k!

blitzen May 3, 2018 9:46 am

I have two old Marriott cards on my account. With the category creep the certs are now worthless to me. So I was checking for an upgrade - no offer available

cober6711 May 3, 2018 9:47 am

20k after first purchase

Chancensam May 3, 2018 10:13 am

20K after first purchase which can be made up to 12/31/18

jeanie May 3, 2018 12:58 pm

Well, I'm somewhat bummed to get an offer of 10K points. At least there isn't any spend for it. I wonder how long the offer is good for? I might wait a while before excepting.

mav May 3, 2018 1:17 pm

I called Chase Bank twice today and was told the only way to get the 100,000 points is to cancel the existing card and in 60 days apply for the new card. That is exactly what I did. I am greedy and wanted the whole 100,000. The clock is ticking for my 60 days;)

eajusa May 3, 2018 1:25 pm

Received the 20K offer. Considering I stay at Hilton properties much more than Marriott's, I'm satisfied.

RMZ2006 May 3, 2018 3:04 pm

I called today and was told my 10k-point offer to upgrade is good through the end of 2018. I'm putting the finishing touches on the 120k offer for $12k spend in the first year, so my plan is to upgrade when that's complete.

nall May 3, 2018 3:20 pm

Curious how long the upgrade takes to take effect.

lkar May 3, 2018 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by mav (Post 29712200)
I called Chase Bank twice today and was told the only way to get the 100,000 points is to cancel the existing card and in 60 days apply for the new card. That is exactly what I did. I am greedy and wanted the whole 100,000. The clock is ticking for my 60 days;)

Just make sure you didn't receive a bonus on your old Marriott premier within the last 24 months from when you apply. The terms exclude the 100k bonus in that case.

jeanie May 3, 2018 9:22 pm


Originally Posted by RMZ2006 (Post 29712582)
I called today and was told my 10k-point offer to upgrade is good through the end of 2018. I'm putting the finishing touches on the 120k offer for $12k spend in the first year, so my plan is to upgrade when that's complete.

Thanks for posting that. I have an anniversary date for the Business Visa later this year. I know that they seem to be changing that, too. The website says new benefits are coming in August for the Business Visa. My anniversary is after August. I wonder if upgrading this card will affect the 15 nights on the anniversary of the Business Visa.

SanDiego1K May 3, 2018 11:44 pm

My husband and I have individual cards. We each received the 20K offer.

kbjarvis May 4, 2018 11:49 am

20K after a purchase

GiantCow May 4, 2018 12:30 pm

Surprised to see the 20k offer since I only got the Premier card 12 months ago and don't use it much.

If I'm understanding the T&C correctly, the following plan is possible right?:

1. Take upgrade for 20k points
2. Wait a year (24 months since Premier bonus)
3. Now I'm free to cancel/reapply for the Premier Plus sign up bonus if I choose to

lkar May 4, 2018 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by GiantCow (Post 29715972)
Surprised to see the 20k offer since I only got the Premier card 12 months ago and don't use it much.

If I'm understanding the T&C correctly, the following plan is possible right?:

1. Take upgrade for 20k points
2. Wait a year (24 months since Premier bonus)
3. Now I'm free to cancel/reapply for the Premier Plus sign up bonus if I choose to

That's how I would read it, unless they were to decide that the 20,000 point upgrade offer is a "new cardmember bonus." That would be a poor reading, IMHO, but theoretically possible. Also, the offer terms could change between now and next year.

Smerri May 4, 2018 5:01 pm

I received the 10,000 points after first purchase. Is there any chance that will change in the future or is it most likely a take it or leave it offer.

jeanie May 4, 2018 9:30 pm

Premier Plus is a Different Product
 
A post in another thread got me to look at the terms and conditions of the upgrade. This is what I found.


3. One benefit of your new Marriott Rewards Premier Plus account is an Anniversary Free Night Award e-certificate every year after your account anniversary, valid for a one night hotel stay at a property with a redemption level at or under 35,000 points, instead of the category 1-4 hotel e-certificate valued up to 20,000 points you received on your Marriott Rewards account. Please note that completing this product change may result in a change to the month you receive your annual Marriott Free Night Award e-certificate. Anniversary year means the year beginning with your account open date through the first statement date after your account open date anniversary, and the 12 monthly billing cycles after that each year. For the list of participating hotels where you can redeem the 35,000 points, log on to MarriottRewards.com/Use or call 1-800-321-7396. Please see your rewards brochure, which arrives within 7-10 days of your new card, for more details.
While we all know the answers from phone agents can be unreliable, I decided to give them a call. He did put me on hold to talk to a supervisor, for what that is worth.

In my case, my annual fee will be billed in January, but if I upgrade now, I won't get the free night until May. This is specifically because a product change generates a new anniversary date at the time of the product change. So right now, my anniversary is when my annual fee is billed. But if I took the upgrade offer today, that anniversary date would change to today's date.

The fact that the terms and conditions above are worded they way they are backs up what the rep told me. I will probably wait until late in the year now before I decide whether to upgrade the card. I was planning on canceling when the annual fee was due. However, I also need more points for LTPP. So I will reevaluate the decision in November to judge how badly I need the 10K.

eajusa May 4, 2018 9:36 pm

My anniversary date is now and I just upgraded and will be charged the AF June 1st. So it worked out well for me.

mcgahat May 5, 2018 7:26 am

I got the 10,000 point offer and do not see any reason to switch now since my anniversary date is later this year. I would say the trip interruption protection and 1 night per 3k spend is worth 10k points.

The way I read it. The new card will give you 15 elite credits starting in 2019, so I would not got any elite credits this fall on my anniversary (like I should with the current card) but instead get them next spring. If I am reading that correctly, definitely a reason not to switch yet.

sdsearch May 5, 2018 8:26 am


Originally Posted by jeanie (Post 29713602)
I have an anniversary date for the Business Visa later this year. I know that they seem to be changing that, too. The website says new benefits are coming in August for the Business Visa.

Which website says that? :confused:

I looked at an application website for the Business Marriott card, and I didn't see anything like that. I logged into my Business Marriott account, and I don't see anything about benefits there at all (it's the old interface).

nall May 5, 2018 10:27 am


Originally Posted by sdsearch (Post 29718650)
Which website says that? :confused:

It's if you click on credit cards on the site detailing the program merger. Link goes here:
Marriott Rewards Credit Cards

frankhi May 5, 2018 3:31 pm

Any down side to upgrading? I don't see any.

nall May 5, 2018 5:42 pm


Originally Posted by frankhi (Post 29719642)
Any down side to upgrading? I don't see any.

https://i.imgur.com/BN7ye0O.png


Reduced trip cancellation/interruption insurance (if you put that on this card)
Increased AF (by $10)
Loss of extra elite night credit every $3k spend

Also, it's unclear what happens to your 15 night elite credit if you upgrade before your anniversary this year.

sdsearch May 5, 2018 8:46 pm


Originally Posted by frankhi (Post 29719642)
Any down side to upgrading? I don't see any.

It completely depends on what you're interested in. If you have no need of elite nights from the card, there's probably little down side to upgrading.

But if you value earning 1 elite night for every $3000 of spend, you lose that feature when you upgrade. So yes, there is a down side, but mostly only for those who care about using spend to get elite nights.

retire4life May 6, 2018 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by jeanie (Post 29717569)
A post in another thread got me to look at the terms and conditions of the upgrade. This is what I found.



While we all know the answers from phone agents can be unreliable, I decided to give them a call. He did put me on hold to talk to a supervisor, for what that is worth.

In my case, my annual fee will be billed in January, but if I upgrade now, I won't get the free night until May. This is specifically because a product change generates a new anniversary date at the time of the product change. So right now, my anniversary is when my annual fee is billed. But if I took the upgrade offer today, that anniversary date would change to today's date.

The fact that the terms and conditions above are worded they way they are backs up what the rep told me. I will probably wait until late in the year now before I decide whether to upgrade the card. I was planning on canceling when the annual fee was due. However, I also need more points for LTPP. So I will reevaluate the decision in November to judge how badly I need the 10K.

I just opened the old Marriott Premier in April. So if I choose to upgrade in October, then that means I have to wait an additional 5 months to get the free night award certificate in 2019, but yet I will be billed the annual fee next April. If so, seems like the best course of action is to upgrade as soon as possible, then decide whether to cancel this card before April 2019.

jeanie May 6, 2018 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by sdsearch (Post 29718650)
Which website says that? :confused:

I looked at an application website for the Business Marriott card, and I didn't see anything like that. I logged into my Business Marriott account, and I don't see anything about benefits there at all (it's the old interface).

This website from Marriott for the new program says that. Drag the mouse over the card in the middle, the Marriott Premier Business Visa, and it says new benefits are coming in August. But I don't know what those benefits are.

Marriott Rewards Credit Cards

There are also 2 credit cards that seem new on that page on the right hand side. The first is a Marriott Consumer Credit Card with a $45 annual fee. Then there is another Marriott Business Card with a $45 annual fee.

sdsearch May 7, 2018 5:40 pm


Originally Posted by jeanie (Post 29722662)
There are also 2 credit cards that seem new on that page on the right hand side. The first is a Marriott Consumer Credit Card with a $45 annual fee. Then there is another Marriott Business Card with a $45 annual fee.

I don't think those are new. Chase, in fact, does not have the right to market a new-program Business card going forward (meaning after August? or after January 2019?), Amex has those rights.

I think those are cards that have been around a long time, but were not cards considered worth getting by most people (3x instead of 5x at Marriott brand properties, and probably no signup bonus ever), so almost never discussed on FT.

The card on the left is the only one with a "new" on top of it, and I suspect it's the only truly new card on that page.

kerrigjl May 8, 2018 9:54 am

https://www.reddit.com/r/churning/co..._name=churning

A compiled data set of over 150 offers in an attempt to determine what determines which offer is given to whom.

sdsearch May 8, 2018 6:02 pm


Originally Posted by kerrigjl (Post 29729904)
https://www.reddit.com/r/churning/co..._name=churning

A compiled data set of over 150 offers in an attempt to determine what determines which offer is given to whom.

So the big (presumably unanswerable) question, for those who just recently got the existing non-Plus Marriott Premier card, is whether waiting until you've had it about 2 years will increase the size of your offer, or whether they'll get rid of upgrade offers by then. (The critical thing about 2 years i that since they seem to be considering both of the these as the same card for signup bonus qualification terms, you'd presumably have to wait 2 years since you got the bonus on the existing non-Plus Marriott Premier card before you could cancel that one and then apply for the new Marriott Premier Plus outright.)

CO-PLAT May 8, 2018 8:41 pm

10,000. I canceled it.

mathprof May 9, 2018 1:36 am

20,000 for me. Debating since a new app would require more spend than I'd like to make on this card.

fox13weather May 9, 2018 7:48 am

Has anyone had the points actually post to their rewards account yet??

frudd38 May 9, 2018 7:51 pm

AF just posted on 5/1 and have a 20k offer. Any DP’s yet on how this upgrade will be treated? e.g. charged another AF?


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