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ridgebackpilot Aug 29, 2017 12:09 pm

Well, we knew something like this was coming, right?! Chase has lost so much on the CSR card that they had to find a way to stop the hemorrhage.

Given that change, I decided to product change my CSP into the CSR card. My CPC banker called on my behalf and it took about five minutes in the branch. To avoid another HP on my Experian, I simply moved some credit from my other Chase cards to cover the difference between the $6K SL on my CSP and the required minimum $10K SL on the CSR. The CSR is a VISA Infinite card and has a minimum SL of $10K.

No, I didn't get any bonus UR points but over time, the CSR card makes far more sense for me than the CSP card. If you travel at all on business or pleasure, consider getting the CSR card. Even though it has a higher annual fee than the CSP card, you can easily make up for that each year with better benefits. See this article for more information: https://thepointsguy.com/2017/05/sho...-csr-over-csp/

According to The Points Guy: "Even though the CSR has a higher annual fee, it easily comes out on top because of its great benefits. But as we’ve seen, even if you don’t include the value of those perks, it still doesn’t take much in the way of annual travel and dining spend for the CSR to make sense, even at $450 per year."

The ability to PC cards and move SL around among cards is one of many reasons that I like Chase.

khlay Aug 29, 2017 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by ridgebackpilot (Post 28751447)
product change my CSP into the CSR card.

How AF & anniversary work in your case? $450 today for CSR and prorated refund CSP?

Gig103 Aug 29, 2017 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by Diplomatico (Post 28749975)
Pretty sure that's still allowed.

Changing cards sounded allowed from the source link, but you had posted about the PC option being 'dead too' (See quote of your earlier post). Did you mean only with respect to sign up bonuses?


Originally Posted by Diplomatico (Post 28748077)
Troopers, in post #5 , quoted the actual language from Chase T&C which means the PC option is dead too. It says:

"The product is not available to either (i) current cardmembers of any Sapphire credit card, or (ii) previous cardmembers of any Sapphire credit card who received a new cardmember bonus within the last 24 months."


ridgebackpilot Aug 29, 2017 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by khlay (Post 28751522)
How AF & anniversary work in your case? $450 today for CSR and prorated refund CSP?

Not certain but I believe that's how they'll handle it.

Honestly I'm not too concerned about the AF on the CSR. With the $300 in travel credit annually, it's really a $150 AF card. And you can make that up easily in UR benefits alone.

Diplomatico Aug 29, 2017 12:43 pm


Originally Posted by Gig103 (Post 28751544)
Changing cards sounded allowed from the source link, but you had posted about the PC option being 'dead too' (See quote of your earlier post). Did you mean only with respect to sign up bonuses?

Yes.

SpammersAreScum Aug 29, 2017 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by lss250 (Post 28748036)
The memo refers specifically to no eligibility for 24 months after closing an account,...

Careful! As DoC points out

On the other hand, Chase’s rule is easier than Citi’s in the sense that closing or downgrading a card won’t reset the 24 months clock for the bonus.
Unlike Barclay and Citi, when you close Chase still uses the clock started at date of last bonus.

philemer Aug 29, 2017 4:28 pm

I'm keeping my CSR for at least another year. My 165K+ UR makes it worth paying a net AF of $150 again.

pallhedge Aug 29, 2017 5:48 pm


Originally Posted by ridgebackpilot (Post 28751447)
...I decided to product change my CSP into the CSR card...

May I ask how long have you had your CSP?

Need Aug 29, 2017 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by khlay (Post 28751522)
How AF & anniversary work in your case? $450 today for CSR and prorated refund CSP?

When I did a PC from CSP to Freedom Unlimited, they prorated the $95 (due April) for 6 months (PC on October) and refunded $47.50.

So I am guessing it would be the same PC from CSP to CSR. Prorated CSP and fully charging the $450 on CSR.

briang191 Aug 29, 2017 9:07 pm

Is it possible to pc from CSP > Freedom?

jjmiller69 Aug 29, 2017 9:15 pm


Originally Posted by briang191 (Post 28753466)
Is it possible to pc from CSP > Freedom?

I'm not sure if you can do it directly. In my case I pc'd to a regular Sapphire and the a couple of weeks later to a Freedom card. So if it comes back no there are other options.
Just above your post someone went from CSP>FU card.

ridgebackpilot Aug 29, 2017 9:38 pm


Originally Posted by pallhedge (Post 28752795)
May I ask how long have you had your CSP?

Just over a year-and-a-half, since December 2015.

briang191 Aug 29, 2017 9:45 pm


Originally Posted by jjmiller69 (Post 28753491)
I'm not sure if you can do it directly. In my case I pc'd to a regular Sapphire and the a couple of weeks later to a Freedom card. So if it comes back no there are other options.
Just above your post someone went from CSP>FU card.

thank you.

1readyset2go Aug 29, 2017 10:53 pm

I got the CSR back in Nov 2016 with the 100k bonus and luckily just a few weeks ago I got the CSP. I went back and forth about getting the CSP or another SWA card, so glad I got the CSP! Feeling pretty smart today :D


Now I just have to decide if I will keep the CSR when the AF hits, or cancel it and just roll with the cheaper CSP from there on.

ridgebackpilot Aug 30, 2017 1:24 am


Originally Posted by 1readyset2go (Post 28753810)
Now I just have to decide if I will keep the CSR when the AF hits, or cancel it and just roll with the cheaper CSP from there on.

Before you ditch the CSR in favor of the CSP, you might want to read this article by The Points Guy:

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/05/sho...-csr-over-csp/

His take is that the CSR is worth keeping despite the higher AF because its benefits are significantly greater on an ongoing basis.


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